在什么情况下,如果已经在MBB上,MBA值得?

Junior atMBBnearing the point where I'd have to decide on applying to anMBAvs. staying at my firm and continuing to progress. I'd expect to stay in consulting at least medium-term (i.e., through Manager) and then either stay in consulting long-term or hop to industry corp strategy /PEops, etc.

纸上很强(770,3.9),但是demographics+ likely average story. I feel confident inM7but HSW (especially HS) seems like I'd be in "crapshoot" territory.

The opportunity cost of 2 years of lostMBB收入对我来说是令人困惑的。此外,从个人层面上,我在假设开始之前就结婚了一些,因此长途方面也令人生畏。

假设我根本不在乎两年的休息 /旅行 /朋友的方面MBA. Can someone make the case for why anMBAmakes sense? Would I regret it 15 years down the line in industry when it comes to progressing within a company? Is it only worth it for certain schools?

Thanks!

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ConsultingQs, 你怎么看?以下评论:

Most people in consulting who haveMBAsthat I've met emphasize the '2 year break' part of getting anMBA. They were all on the verge of burning out, and anMBAgave them an excuse to stop working for 2 years and have a ton of fun. This seems to be the element they considered most valuable.

当然,您可以添加到网络中。但是我无法想象这将是您已经拥有的巨大改善MBB. Maybe the benefit is felt more when you are selling work as a partner, or if you have a less prestigious undergrad education?

但是,如果您不为获得MBA, if you aren't on the verge of burning out, and if it will make your personal life difficult instead of less difficult, I don't see the ROI.

只是我作为乘坐类似船的人的个人想法。

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CompBanker, 你怎么看?以下评论:

One reason would be if you went to a very weak undergrad and you wanted to shore up that aspect of your profile. If you already went to an Ivy League or otherwise top undergrad, adding an additional one to your resume isn't as meaningful as a boost. Considering you've already rejected the majority of the reasons that people typically get anMBAfromMBB, my initial reaction would be for you to skip it.

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Esq888, 你怎么看?以下评论:

Everything ConsultingQs said + Potential promotion and Get a prestigious name on your CV (this one is more like a want than a need).

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匿名猴子, 你怎么看?以下评论:

到目前为止,我喜欢所有评论,我认为您会得到很好的建议。为此,我将为财务方面添加更多内容。您可以考虑收入的机会成本。除此之外,还要考虑一下您在这两年中可能要产生的债务。

Personally, that's what always kept me fromMBAand I kept my grad studies (non MBA) cheap with all online courses that I paid for outright. It just never made sense for me to take on debt to do a Masters when the post-MBA salary would really not be much difference than what I was already earning (consulting, tech, etc.). Why would I take on (likely) 6-figure debt when my post income was only going to change, maybe,10k?

因此,财务方面确实是双重打击。您正在失去潜在收入andtaking on debt. That nearly destroys all the ROI you could possibly get from anMBA.

ESG
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9mo
jarstar1, 你怎么看?以下评论:

不过,这是如此短期的思考,只有当您认真地认为您的收入潜力不会随着收入而发生太大变化,它才真正适用MBAvs without. As someone who took out a lot of debt and forwent income to get hisMBA, I'm not looking at the 5-7 year time horizon, but the 30-40 year one. I was able to shift into an industry that more than doubled my immediate income and set me up for at least 4-5x lifetime earnings. The fact that I'm making more now, after debt service, than I was pre-MBA is enough to justify it.

If you're at anMBBand have the potential to make partner, then yeah, the odds of your comp going up after B-School is slim and your advice makes sense, but it doesn't apply broadly. I just want to point this out for anyone else who is looking at this forum and isn't at anMBB或有巨大的种种折磨ntial early in their career, anMBA在某些情况下可以使财务意义。

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匿名猴子, 你怎么看?以下评论:

You're missing that its all relative to income. Some of us are already making a high salary without theMBA. So it still doesnt make sense because your career (not just short term) earnings are basically near a peak. To both step away from that and incur debt is a massive step backwards. If you're making 50K - get as manyMBAsas you want. But for some people it just doesn't make sense.

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Deal Team Six, 你怎么看?以下评论:

一般不成文的规则是您的TC接近200k,您无意转换行业,去做是没有意义的MBA路线。我要等几年,如果你是厕所king to pivot to something less standardized (e.g., not another consulting / corp strat role), then use yourMBA主。也许两年后你realize you really wanna get intoVC, particularly within the industry you specialized in within consulting. It wouldpotentiallybe easier to make the jump coming straight out of yourMBA, and also getting a bit of a break before grinding it out at a new firm in a new role.

正如其他人所说的那样,如果您不安全的话:您的本科生,希望通过顶部重塑品牌MBA, that would be one potential (albeit weak) rationale. This is dumb in your case though, as you are already atMBB, which is far more rigorous and prestigious than coming from a target / semi undergrad. As someone who went to a relatively unknown UG, I always find this argument to be flawed. I have met and worked for a C suite exec with a semi target UG and a top 3MBAand he was fired in under six months. Lesson being you can have a strong resume from an academics perspective but if you cannot execute on the job that is all that matters.

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generic_consultant23, 你怎么看?以下评论:

Thanks for this perspective, super helpful.

On the prestige front, if I'm being honest, that was always one of the more attractive reasons for getting anMBA- relatively speaking, it's an easy way to get a top educational brand on your resume. But it's faulty reasoning PLUS I feel like my current firm provides sufficient branding (after all, only a subset of students at [Prestigious School X] will be able to break in).

关于职业变化,一个自我提出的挑战是我只想做一个MBAunder sponsorship, so I'd have to return to consulting for at least two years regardless. Do you think at that point (2 years post-MBA), any of those sorts of career changing benefits become nullified? Essentially, I wouldn't be leveraging on-campus recruiting during my time at anMBA程序。

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Deal Team Six, 你怎么看?以下评论:

I see your thought process, and think you would need to provide more info on what your ideal career track looks like. If you're a grinder and looking to be a CEO / CFO one day, then Id probably say yeah, get theMBAWITH sponsorship. Have a friend who went HSW --> McK --> HSWMBA--> CEO of top global company. If this is your desired path, definitely speak to someone smarter than me / on a more comparable path to get their $0.02 over mine.

我完全了解赞助元素,并认为这是一个巨大的考虑因素。如果我目前的雇主在我的期间赞助并支持我MBA, then it would be another story. If you receive 50%+ company funding (not sure what your firm's policy is), then I think it really changes the game.

总体而言,我认为尝试更深入地绘制出最佳职业道路会有所帮助。您的GPA和GMAT使您成为所有顶级M7的顶级竞争对手,所以也许与一些获得赞助的人建立联系MBA路线,还走上了您发现诱人的职业道路,看看他们是否很高兴自己做到了?现在打赌您有90%以上的人说,无论是在咨询还是退出的情况下,都值得赞助。

编辑:朋友的职业道路实际上是HSW - > MCK-> HSWMBA--> McK --> CEO of top global company, which is why I thought it was relevant

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generic_consultant23, 你怎么看?以下评论:

您是否介意分享未获得MBA的推理?

This is one thought that's kept it as an option. Hard to judge especially with theMBAas a degree seeming to become less and less of a "requirement", but I would be frustrated if it'd be the one thing preventing executive level promotion decisions down the road. I notice most execs seem to have a graduate degree of some kind, but that could be selection bias.

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Nobody that I've met who's done aMBA(especially at HSW) has regretted it. It brings 3 key benefits - 1) long term option value (people, network, relationships, brand name), 2) two year sabbatical and reflection (don't underestimate the mental health aspects of this), and 3) career pivots (if you wanted to pivot out of consulting post MBA). At H and I can't count how manyMBBconsultants I met that thought they were going back to consulting but ended up graduating and taking offers inVC, Corp Dev (Google,Amazon, etc.), starting their own search fund,growth equity, and are so glad they did theMBAto open up their perspective.

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generic_consultant23, 你怎么看?以下评论:

Thanks a ton for this perspective. Would your thoughts change if I have a self-imposed constraint that I must take sponsorship (i.e., I'd be 100% returning to consulting for two years after and then potentially thinking of exits). Would theMBAexperience still help me at this point two years out? (i.e., I won't be able to take advantage of on-campus recruiting)

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generic_consultant23

Thanks a ton for this perspective. Would your thoughts change if I have a self-imposed constraint that I must take sponsorship (i.e., I'd be 100% returning to consulting for two years after and then potentially thinking of exits). Would theMBAexperience still help me at this point two years out? (i.e., I won't be able to take advantage of on-campus recruiting)

I think the value proposition of 1/2 is still there. A lot of the sponsored consultants here either go back and do 2 or 3 more years and move onto corporate roles and theMBAhelps there. Again, a lot of sponsored consultants think they are going back initially and don't afterwards. I think another way to think about theMBAis that yes it does cost a lot of money but the experiences are incredible (travelling, academics, speakers, stretch experiences, people you meet). I don't think of it as a pure ROI type of calculation. I came from banking as an Associate so short-term it would've made no sense. However, there's so much intangibles as part of theMBA(long-term option value of having a MBA) and overall the experience way exceeded my expecations at H. I think at the end of my life at ~85 years old on a death-bed, would I wish for A) $x more money to pass onto my kids or B) experience that I've had and bar none I would rather have had the experiences.

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ke18sb, 你怎么看?以下评论:

一方面,机会成本从长远来看并不重要。它可能会延迟购买房屋或类似房屋的东西,但总的来说,这并不是真正的事情。学校将获得薪水,因此您不会有那么多钱。您将能够尝试your summer internshipin a role/industry you like or even risk something entrepreneurial over the summer since you'll have ablue chipjob lined up. There is value in that. Another nice thing about school is the amount of free time you have, especially if not grinding and recruiting, to dream up ideas and try to collaborate with others and even get professors help. Its a pretty unique free roll at entrepreneurship.

综上所述,它仍然没有妻子的收入为2年。经验的一部分是在旅行等上闲逛聚会,这可能会更加困难。我认为世界正在偏离整体MBApedigree thing, especially if you keep rising up atMBB- that is already pedigree enough. Since you'd be going back to consulting in all likelihood it really is a 2 year hiatus from working that adds some soft value not much. All the classes will probably be pretty basic given your background.

艰难的电话,但两种选择都可以。您的职业生涯可能不会真正朝任何方向移动,无论您是否做MBA给定您当前的个人资料。

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Definitely worth it if you can get into GSB orHBS. Below that, some of these comments on lowerROIbegin to apply.

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