加拿大大学 - 滑铁卢很好吗?

I am a 4th year at Ivey in Canada which is a top target here. Most of my friends got great internships inIBatBBsand Big 5, and same with my friends at Queens. Today I was bored and went on LinkedIn and was blown away by some of the internships from Waterloo and mostly the accounting program. Here were some of the profiles I saw and internships I saw:

人1:德勤,RBCIB,BMOIB, AltasPE,EvercoreSAand Evercore英尺

人2:PWC,PWC,CIBCIB,BMOIB,拉扎德IB,pjtSAand PJT英尺

人3:德意志银行&T, CPPIB, QatalystSAand Qatalyst英尺

人5:PWC,PWC,高盛IB, 高盛IB, 高盛英尺

人4:普华永道,高盛萨克斯IB, 高盛IB,OTPP和高盛英尺

Person 5: EY, CIBCIB, 高盛IB,极性AM,BCG今年毕业

How are these people at Waterloo getting such crazy internships while in school? Most ivey and queens kids only do oneIB实习,但其中一些人最多完成了4个整个学期。鸡舍好吗?

真的很感谢任何见解

评论 (45)

  • 前景IB- gen
Feb 19, 2021 - 2:36am

They have co-op programs that make it so a spot is guaranteed at all these firms for a Waterloo kid + they don't have school during the internships * it's off cycle so less competition

  • 实习生IB- gen
Feb 19, 2021 - 2:57am

You're a Canadian student and didn't know that Waterloo had those kind of placements?? LOL have you been living under a rock?

2021年2月19日至3:01 AM

滑铁卢的合作社可让您进入加拿大顶级公司,但EB/BB/MEGAFUNDPEnamely through their own efforts as they don't actually get these postings on their portal.

为了执行4个合作术语,如果您想尝试不同的角色,那绝对是一个加号。滑铁卢与Ivey之间的主要区别是,一旦Ivey学生在一家精品店中扮演角色,他们就可以利用这一角色纽约OCR,在滑铁卢作为目标计划等的状态,更常见的是,学生从精品店 - > big 5并在那里盖帽。

Feb 19, 2021 - 5:52pm

I'm assuming you mean how job postings work - we have our own internal system called WaterlooWorks (used to be called Jobmine) - the school spends time and money each year building connections with employers so they know that there's a ton of talent here - which is why they return every term/ every year to hire.A student does NOT need to apply for a job in their faculty only - meaning that the game is open to anyone. However, some jobs are restricted and they will prefer/ mandate that students are from certain programs only in the job description.如果不是这样,那么任何人都是公平的游戏。但是,请记住,您正在与许多拥有大量财务/银行经验的人竞争CS学生IB工作。每个工作的竞争力各不相同 -IB每位个人雇用的工作将接近100人(例如1个职位开放),而Big Tech的比例相同,或者通常更糟。因此,无论如何,这仍然是一个竞争过程。我建议您选择一个或另一个,因为您将没有时间在工作中同时进行银行准备和技术准备工作,并且该学期仅3个月以上的全部课程加载 - 几乎是不可能的。

最有帮助的
2021年2月19日至1:13 pm

I'm from Waterloo SAF and I can help with your question:

For some context, SAF currently has four programs with some quick descriptions, as follows:

艺术学院 - AFM(〜300-400人,4个Coops +第一年夏季休息):第一年很容易,第二年艰难地一直到会计硕士(MACC),大多数孩子都会做某种形式的会计/行业金融,但是越来越多IBand exploring other routes (see below). Typical jobs include public accounting such as Big 4, industry IT, finance and accounting at the Big 5 Canadian banks, government jobs in Canada Revenue Agency (CRA), and business roles in pretty much every industry you can think of. Most people go all the way to MAcc (accredited program that allows you to skip the capstones and go straight to the CFE, you pass and you're done the theory part of yourCPA在加拿大. Do a total 30 months (including coop experiences) in approved accounting/ finance roles and you get your fullCPA. It's one of the fastest routes to get yourCPA有传言称MACC学生CFE通过率接近90%,而全国平均水平为75%(每CPA加拿大)包括Uwaterloo的90%。(可以通过与MACC计划的朋友交谈,靠近所有人通过。)

Arts/ Math faculty - CFM (~50-60 people, 5-6 coops):the computer science/ finance hybrid, strong program and depending on the electives you take can be pretty chill or wicked hard (CS electives can be pretty crazy, especially likeCS341 andCS350,Algos和OS)。即使许多人在金融和技术方面都有实习经验,但人们通常会专门研究一个人,尽管并非均匀地决定很早就专门研究,而只选择只购买技术或仅资金库。我认识的大多数人选择技术和FAAGS(Netflix在这里不是很大),如果您投入工作,这是非常正常的。有些人从事金融工作,但很少有人从事IB/PE/HFcompared到技术。

数学学院 - 数学/CPA(~50-60 people, 4 coops + first year summer off):the math/ AFM hybrid, you're fixed in terms of course load. There are some electives but not much flexibility. Very hard program in terms of course load because all your electives must be math courses and even the birds are not that bird. Most people go intoCPAroute for public accounting but some toIBand others.

Science faculty - Biotech/CPA(~15 people, 4 coops + first year summer off):the science/ AFM hybrid, you're fixed in terms of course load. There are some electives but not much flexibility. Very hard program in terms of course load because all your electives must be science courses and even the birds are not that bird (I think, as there are very few people in this program I'm not sure whether this is fully correct but it should be close). Most people go intoCPAroute for public accounting but some to finance or others.

大多数人从数学/CPA和生物技术/CPA在first year because the program is just not right for them/ big learning curve due to the sheer difficulty. Fewer people switch out from AFM and CFM and all four programs solidify after second year. Switching out of programs is complex because you can usually only switch to the same faculty and the process is just annoying.

现在回答您的问题:

“这些人在学校上学时如何获得如此疯狂的实习?大多数Ivey和Queens的孩子只有一个IB实习,但是其中一些人最多可以做4个整个学期。Coop很好吗?”

简短答案 - 是的,您知道报价“现金是国王?”- 嗯,“ Coop Is King”也很准确。当然,通常只有最好的学生才能IB, as they still look for strong grades and stuff, but sometimes it's also about smart planning for your career. Most people who get intoIB有一个相似之处,他们是以下俱乐部,或者他们在他们的领导下拥有大量的案件竞争经验,并且至少进入了前4名。

Student investment fund (SIF):使用赠款的公司对公司和实际投资进行股票推销 - 这是您正常课程负担的额外课程,您将需要获得良好的成绩,并且在接受教授的面试中做得很好(甚至不是一门课程)工作)。这是一个非常苛刻的课程,但基本上是教您您所做的大部分工作IB.

学生风险基金(SVF):pitches forVCs在the KW-Toronto corridor and others, cousin to SIF but for people more interested in startups/VCs而不是上市公司。

Other case competitions include the Investment research challenge (IRC) - stock pitch where industry professionals come and judge, and variousCFAchallenges ... etc.

管理咨询俱乐部(UWMCC):newer club but growing fast, for people who are interested in管理咨询- brings in alumni who are usually from Big 4 consulting, BCG,Oliver Wyman, and sometimes Bain and others to talk about their consulting experience. I won't be如果麦肯锡感到惊讶becomes a more frequent employer later on as well. Hosts case competitions and have strong relationships with industry people.

如果您参加课程 +这些ECS + Coop - 与大多数竞争相比,它会使您变得更加强大。由于Coop会尽早为您提供工作经验,因此您还将拥有您可以依靠的网络和参考。许多人有时会使用4大4号作为跳板来提高他们的首个鸡舍的简历,然后转移到资助第二枚库赛的角色(发生,很好)。

诀窍是,即使您找不到第二个鸡舍IB/ high finance/ consulting, you can still continue to do ECs,casecomps, while you network and talk to people and find opportunities for your third and fourth coops, which puts you waaay ahead of the second and third year students when you're a year older with that much more experience. In addition, alumni are usually happy to help out younger students and this creates a super positive feedback loop. This isn't just forIB或者finance roles either, it's also for tech, consulting, business, and pretty much every other role you can think of.

这就是为什么合作社如此强大的原因,为什么这么多学生想去Uwaterloo参加CS这些日子。如果您使用Leetcode进行了多次面试,在FAAGS上找到工作非常有竞争力,但也很有可能,因为毕竟准备和烧烤,您将获得精神繁多的经验。这里的大多数学生也非常努力地工作,并且是磨碎的。我认为坚韧可能是决定成功的最重要的事情,人们在这里拥有大量的成功。这并不是说班级入学人数和高中的毕业通货膨胀也没有问题,但这就是自由市场与供求的运作方式。人们在这里也会得到很多抑郁症,我认识的每个聪明人在学术或访谈或其他方面都至少遭受了一次破坏。人们还因为压力有时会休假,没关系。您只需要尝试查看最适合自己的特定需求,并尽力而为。希望这个巨大的咆哮有用。

May 27, 2021 - 3:23am

嘿,似乎您对UW的金融/商业现场知识渊博 - 如果他们的目标是咨询,您会怎么说工程(Mech)会这样做?从我所听到的,如果您做像UWMCC之类的事情并尝试降落一些大名字(F500?)合作社,那么您在后来的合作社中有不错的面试机会,但与此同时,大多数人我看到的人要咨询/IBare all SAF students.

Jun 30, 2021 - 7:57pm

I'm assuming you want to do management consulting vs the other types. Honestly, I think employers don't really care what background you're in, and like the person above said, mech might actually be a background that they look for. Engineering people often have a very process-driven mindset, which can help a lot in consulting. I'd recommend looking for some resources online for案例访谈准备,然后查看如何提高顾问使用这些技能,以提高Excel和PowerPoint技能。我还建议参加一些在SAF或其他学院举行的案件比赛,例如Ace Consulting和其他咨询案例竞赛,并尝试了解您在解决问题和提出问题方面的表现。理想情况下,您希望找到与咨询有关的合作社,例如,如果是入门级角色,您实际上可以在哪里做一些可以谈论的事情(VS只是随机的SQL编码等)。像F500这样的大名名字会有所帮助,但我也认为,如果您确实启动合作社并在需要戴多个帽子的角色中工作,它会有所帮助。但是,您需要在面试时能够很好地制作故事,以便他们知道您具有咨询所需的技能和批判性思维。如果您对此感兴趣,BCG拥有他们的BCG伽玛伽玛。UWMCC是一个不错的起点,您也可以向演讲者询问他们的旅程。

  • 分析师1IB- gen
2021年2月19日 - 下午3:54

Waterloo - MIT

Ivey - Wharton

麦吉尔 - 达特茅斯

  • 分析师1IB -COV
Feb 19, 2021 - 4:39pm

LOL, I am from McGill and this is so accurate haha

  • 实习生IB- gen
Feb 19, 2021 - 5:06pm

If Dartmouth wasn't a target, that is

  • 实习生VC
Feb 19, 2021 - 6:57pm

我是滑铁卢的第一年,我一直在建立网络,而且我肯定我知道您列出的3个哈哈。这是一个小世界的人。

  • 实习生VC
Feb 20, 2021 - 6:41pm

我是一个小地区的兼职实习生VC公司。诚然,我真的没有大声笑。我能够将其利用为夏天的更好的实习,所以我想这并不是所有的糟糕

  • 前景IB-M&A
2021年2月19日至11:44 pm

are these full time positions in纽约/sf?

Feb 20, 2021 - 2:04pm

Off-cycle co-op placements are huge. Their competition for fall/winter is basically nil. Even if some of these positions atGS, Evercore, etc. are classic summer positions (where competition is obviously high), getting the chance to rack up top quality internships via fall/winter co-ops is huge in boosting resumes and helping ensure they get interviews. And once you get an interview, it's all just a matter of nailing the technicals, fit, etc.

When you have such a good deal in place with co-op, it attracts really driven people. Waterloo gets a lot of students in general who are laser focused on their careers (whether that be tech, finance, etc.)

  • 分析师1PE -LBOS
2021年2月20日 - 下午4:16

Evercore's summer class last year had I think 8 ivey kids, 5/6 queens kids, 1 u of t and 0 Waterloo...

Obviously, placement could vary by firm. Ivey / Queens are considered as better as there are a high number of "good" placements. Also Ivey gets you access to somePEroles (SLP, Ares, etc)

Feb 21, 2021 - 12:30am

这是无与伦比的。从加拿大学校的角度来看,艾维和皇后是上帝的层。至于前六名的学校,“声望”或多或少对雇主是相同的。无论您是招募湾街还是华尔街,都没有真正的区别。我个人去滑铁卢,因为在加拿大顶级公司中将相同的职位降落更容易,因此更容易在国外利用。

  • 实习生PE -LBOS
Feb 21, 2021 - 3:33pm

Agreed. Queens and Ivey by far have the best job opportunities when it comes to jobs inPE/IB.

我认为这篇文章确实有一些生存偏见。可以肯定的是,在滑铁卢,鸡舍的位置是惊人的,但是这些人也很少有这些工作。总体而言,这些可能是班级竞争的最高0.5%。

在Ivey/Queen's的财务上,有更多更好的机会,当这两家学校中的两家学校每年将50多人送入金融时,您就不必成为班上的前五名孩子。

2021年2月24日 - 1:15 AM

Mistake in my initial post, it should've said "other schools in the top 6" meaning the other 4 schools. My post did state that going to Ivey/Queens is God tier meaning they open up doors that you could only dream about going to other schools. However, I strongly disagree on the top 0.5% of the class gunning for finance part. I don't know the exact percentage but I'd say Waterloo probably sends 30+ people into finance a year, just not at theBB/EB/PE等等。绝对不是生存偏见,您可以清楚地进行LinkedIn并查找统计数据。免责声明我不去滑铁卢,但我有很多朋友这样做,所以我深入了解了那里的一切如何运作。

4月19, 2021 - 7:54pm

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  • 商学院IB- gen
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