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考虑全职的本科生在非顶级选择城市（想想亚特兰大，达拉斯，休斯顿）提供了全职的S＆O。S＆O真的是MBB之后的下一个最好的事情吗？是什么使这家公司的声誉如此高？与ATK和ATK和埃森哲策略在我的顶级选择城市相比纽约? I understand that consulting involves a lot of travel, but I could spend a lot more time with close family in friends on Fridays and weekends living in纽约.

考虑到这一提议，很想听听一些想法。提前致谢！

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噩梦， 你怎么看？以下评论：
awilo11：
S＆O真的是MBB之后的下一个最好的事情吗？

不。这是之后最好的事情之一MBB, but certainly not the clear #1 by any means.

关于所有2级strategy firms, each have their unique pros and cons which should be weighed in your decision. Oliver Wyman probably leads the group, but Strategy&/ATK/Deloitte S&O/LEK/Parthenon/ACN strategy and maybe someone else I'm forgetting are all roughly on the same playing field. I'm defining this group based on prestige, corporate exit opportunities, b school placement, amount of strategy work that you will actually do, etc.

现在，就您的决定而言 - 是的，德勤S＆O可能是该小组中最负盛名的人。我的意思是，您可以走到酒吧的一个女孩/男人，说：“我是德勤的顾问”，与他们告诉咨询或财务外的某人相比，您更有可能和他们一起回家“我为ATK/LEK/PARTHENON/Strategut＆”工作。但是谁会给那些人的想法。实际上，您在工作领域与您互动的每个人都会知道，ATK和ACN策略是参与的一员，您将与您在工作市场的Deloitte的同龄人处于公平的竞争环境中。由于较大的校友基地，德勤可能在那里略有优势。

In my opinion, your decision should factor in three criteria: 1) city 2) type of work 3) culture.

1) You seem to be skiddish about joining Deloitte in a suboptimal location - I would weigh this fairly heavily. Though you will be traveling plenty, it would suck to spend your 3-4 days at home each week alone and without any friends/family. This early on in your career I think it's important to optimize based on where you will be happiest. Don't take this for granted.

2) ACN Strategy will have a strong technology focus to their strategy work, but are regarded as industry leaders in the space. At ATK you will work on a lot of supply chain projects among other strategy work. At Deloitte you will probably be exposed to the greatest breadth of projects, though you may find it challenging to land those pure strategy gigs. Figure out which of these appeal to you most.

3）文化很难取消，但是如果您强烈喜欢或不喜欢某个群体，我也会考虑到这一点。

But congrats on all your offers - it's great to have so many options to choose from. Good luck.

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nousername9999， 你怎么看？以下评论：

这可能是我在这个论坛上见过的最好的，最精致的第2级崩溃之一 - 希望人们在接下来的百万次问到“这更享有盛名的百万次PARTHENONOR DELOITTE S&O?"

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付费人， 你怎么看？以下评论：
噩梦：
awilo11：
S＆O真的是MBB之后的下一个最好的事情吗？

不。这是之后最好的事情之一MBB, but certainly not the clear #1 by any means.

关于所有2级strategy firms, each have their unique pros and cons which should be weighed in your decision. Oliver Wyman probably leads the group, but Strategy&/ATK/Deloitte S&O/LEK/Parthenon/ACN strategy and maybe someone else I'm forgetting are all roughly on the same playing field. I'm defining this group based on prestige, corporate exit opportunities, b school placement, amount of strategy work that you will actually do, etc.

现在，就您的决定而言 - 是的，德勤S＆O可能是该小组中最负盛名的人。By that I mean that you can walk up to a girl/guy at the bar and say, "I'm a consultant for the Deloitte" and you will be more likely to go home with them than if you tell someone outside of consulting or finance that "I work for ATK/LEK/Parthenon/Strategy&". But who gives a damn what those people think. Practically everyone you interact with in your field of work will know that ATK and ACN Strategy are great groups to be a part of, and you will be on a level playing field with your peers at Deloitte in the job market. Deloitte may have a slight advantage there due to larger alumni base though.

In my opinion, your decision should factor in three criteria: 1) city 2) type of work 3) culture.

1) You seem to be skiddish about joining Deloitte in a suboptimal location - I would weigh this fairly heavily. Though you will be traveling plenty, it would suck to spend your 3-4 days at home each week alone and without any friends/family. This early on in your career I think it's important to optimize based on where you will be happiest. Don't take this for granted.

2) ACN Strategy will have a strong technology focus to their strategy work, but are regarded as industry leaders in the space. At ATK you will work on a lot of supply chain projects among other strategy work. At Deloitte you will probably be exposed to the greatest breadth of projects, though you may find it challenging to land those pure strategy gigs. Figure out which of these appeal to you most.

3）文化很难取消，但是如果您强烈喜欢或不喜欢某个群体，我也会考虑到这一点。

But congrats on all your offers - it's great to have so many options to choose from. Good luck.

Upvote. Would definitely suggest deloitte. While Accenture branding is good, they are very heavy on tech implementation work and they are primarily famous for thay above everything else they do. I personally find it horrible. As a fresh grad don't pigeon hole yourself just yet. Deloitte will give you sufficient exposure to really learn the ropes and familiarize yourself with what you want to do later on.

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ConsultingMonkey04， 你怎么看？以下评论：

尽管我同意，埃森哲的整体品牌比其他层次2s更具体化，但整个埃森哲策略的技术实施工作是一再兜售的最荒谬的神话之一WSO.

当客户能够从埃森哲MC或Tech拥有更多合格的资源的军队以更少的钱做同样的资源时，为什么客户为执行技术实施的埃森哲策略支付溢价费用呢？manbetx3.0手机客户端

埃森哲战略is a separate P&L from the rest of Accenture and it was very clear during my four years at Accenture that strategists were expected to work on real strategy work - otherwise it'd reflect in your performance reviews.

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wheretogonext， 你怎么看？以下评论：

Deloitte upped its analyst salaries this year to 80K+12.5K signing for not expensive cities and 85K+12.5K signing for纽约等等，我认为它比MBBand other places

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esuric， 你怎么看？以下评论：

没有人会和你发生性关系，因为你在德勤工作.

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噩梦， 你怎么看？以下评论：

Very true - CoL is no joke. At the same time, I would rather live with my 6 best friends in a closet in纽约而不是仅在达拉斯交易股票。如果我没有一些最好的朋友可以在周末闲逛，我发誓我会发疯的。也就是说，我可能比许多人更重视我的社交生活WSO:)

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They dont call you The Nightman for nothing I suppose

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Holdthedoor， 你怎么看？以下评论：

Most of analyst pay for consulting isn't that great as compared toIB. AtMBB您最终可能会以90-100k的身份。

IMO，Parthenon，Lek和Ow比S＆O更好PE等等。对可能的退出进行一些研究。

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关于PEGod， 你怎么看？以下评论：

在通用金融/咨询行业中，德勤S＆O不被认为是ATK或埃森哲战略之上的头部和肩膀。总体而言，德勤在行业以外的人中确实具有更大的品牌知名度，但通常被认为是一家4大会计师事务所，因为很少有人知道哪些战略咨询需要什么。埃森哲战略不是仅执行重复技术实施项目的埃森哲的子组。

除此之外，是否有理由让Deloitte S＆o亲自将您作为头部和肩膀高于其他两个选择的头部，而您选择了一个次优的城市只是与Deloitte品牌相处？他们是否脱颖而出，比您在面试中与其他小组交谈的群体要多得多？文化是否更合适？听起来他们在与他们在一起的时候设法使您迷惑不解（这是四大公司的确非常非常好）。

底线：我不会成为告诉您“不要根据声望选择工作”的人，因为您应该知道这一点。但是归根结底，德勤S＆O并不比埃森哲/ATK策略更享有声望，因此，如果您对德勤的内在亲密关系，那么您不妨接受其中之一纽约offers.

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