帮助！MD is asking me to come with him

Sorry, this is not beneficial to your question, but as an incomingIB分析师是谁紧张的AF/Pertrified，您能否分享您成为老公司最佳分析师的技巧/经验？好像你做对了。谢啦。

一个重要的问题是，您对MD引入业务和经营公司的能力有多信心。我有一个问题是，如果合作伙伴真的像您所说的那样是一个造雨者，为什么合作伙伴不愿意给他一个更大的切片 - 他们愿意让他走路吗？如果是这样，他甚至没有尝试进行谈判，那可能不是一个很棒的唱歌，或者他们可能只是白痴。只是我的两分钱。

I can speak to spinning off with a rainmaker but not in anIB设置。我收到它会更浅色印花布玩得团团转ns learned than anything.

1）以书面形式获取一切。词实际上没有意思。
2) Do the cost/benefit analysis, and show him what you're leaving behind. This can't just be assumed he'll understand. Then make the numbers make sense for upside considering the risk. Clarity on both sides is key, for compensation, hours worked, expected duties, new headcount, etc. It should feel like an open conversation you'd have with your friend.
3）这与忠诚无关。这不是关于他讨人喜欢的。这是为了做对您的职业有意义的事情。清晰的眼睛进入。
4）真的，真的，真正地评估了这个人的性格。

I've made the similar move a couple years back. Here's my 2 cents:

1) You are fairly young in your career. This is the time to take risks. When you're ~30 like me, your risk tolerance becomes much lower in life as you have more responsibilities (ie: mortgage, gf/wife, standard of living, etc). I can go on....but the point is that I can't even travel to some parts of the world because my risk tolerance is much lower.

2）你已经有EB经验很棒。如果其他所有确实失败了，您总是可以依靠自己的强大简历/经验。

3）就像上述人所说的那样，将所有内容都放在纸上并评估人的性格。如果您相信他，请确保您也相信自己。现在是时候打赌自己了，因为如果您不这样做，还有谁会？

4）保持谦虚。偷猎并获得了一位成熟的高年级的信任是非常讨人喜欢的。但是，加入没有基础架构的初创公司将是一项具有挑战性的任务。您将从头开始做所有事情，并设置所有流程。没有工作在你上方。我个人认为这很有意义，因为几年后，即使您决定离开组织，也可以回顾一下自己的成就。

I was in a similar situation during my ASO1 days, and was asked to join a startup advisory practice leaving aBB。我喜欢我的老板并信任他。话虽这么说，我加入时做了所有事情（其中包括所有行政任务），但这更有意义。在4年中，我们已经从3人增长到12人，我们根本没有投球。我们所有的客户都与我们建立了深厚的关系，因此所有客户都回头的业务和口口相传。当我获得一笔交易的一百分点时，Comp非常透明（这是在我加入纸张并多年来增加时建立的）；今年，我将以副总裁的价格清理接近1毫米的$ 1毫米。YMMV。祝你好运。

Grow a pair of cojones and take the job. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to strike it big. You play to win the game. Being a conservative worry wart only wins you missionary sex and a Honda minivan with two snot nosed kids.

This seems like a good opportunity, but you need to make sure your downside is protected ans this is a strong enough package to justify it.EB- > Boutique->两年内的启动公司都是很多举动，尤其是当您每次降级银行时。

一些小想法 -

- Equity would be non-negotiable for me, especially if you're taking a haircut on comp and playing both analyst/associate. Assuming there's no other partners and you're employee #2, I'd want a decent chunk as well - don't undervalue yourself as "just an analyst" because you will be doing all of the grunt/admin work for the next few years.

- 在上述点上，我1.坚持要搬迁的标题，并且2.需要更加清楚人员结构。如果您要扮演这两个角色，并且被工作猛烈抨击，并且在完成交易之前也没有付费。即使只是每小时为实习生带来实习生，您也需要帮助。另外，会有一些后台/HR/工资类型功能吗？我认为医学博士不会突然把那些

- You're going to need a solid contract - equity, bonuses, comp, etc. Maybe even have a lawyer review it for you.

我不会做。似乎太冒险了，我不确定专业人士是否可以发起缺点。但那只是我的个人意见。

Anyways, it would be a good idea to actually write a pros and cons list and decide.

HAVE EVERYTHING IN WRITING MY GUY, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

如果他始终每年收入10至15英镑的收入，我认为绝对值得进一步探索。看看他首先提供的内容，但我会尝试从您处理的交易中获得10％的费用，占总费用的2％。当您被提升时，每一个扩展。第一年，您不会赚很多钱，但是从第二年开始，我希望他每年至少要带500万。仅在交易奖金中，这将是50万+，如果他还带来其他收入的人，那么他可能会更多。

您也可能会和他一起去所有的球场，并学习一吨并开始建立网络以最终开始创造业务，这确实是银行业务的最终目标，如果您待在这一职业中。

Honestly depends how much you trust him. You're already being exposed to one of the most important lessons in life as it relates to careers. Loyalty to companies is useless. Loyalty to people is limitless. I have friends who run the gamut from banking to big tech, and we are constantly amazed how some of the executives got where they are because they were linked to the key players in the companies. And yes, some of them were not as a competent as you'd expect given their role.

All this sums up to is that if you're up for the heavily increased workload but very much trust this guy, then it sounds like an amazing opportunity.

I'd take it, you can't put a price on having a good boss. Also agree now is the time to take risks but do your due dilligence

IMO I think you should take the job. MD is putting just as much on the line as you are so as long as everything is in writing I think it'll work out.

On top of that, the way you detailed your work ethic and behavior, you will have no problem landing a job and excelling there as well if it doesn't work out.

That being said (assuming your in NY), I'm an undergrad student right now at NYU and would love to intern at a start-up bank. If you do decide, and are looking for interns to help out, please PM to learn more about me.

无论您决定的一切都祝您好运。

I'd suggest you do it but only after getting him to write an offer letter defining the terms. You could also push for an associate title.

Your entire upside in this endeavor hinges on his ability to generate consistent fees. That is the entire risk. You need to diligence him and his track record more than anything else here. If this startup advisory shop is successful, it's safe to say your upside will be preserved assuming you've crossed your Ts and dotted your Is. But the outcome here will be very binary -- his success or failure.

If your planning to leave get it writing from your current boss and then go back to your current bank and ask for whatever is required to get you to stay (associate promote, more money, a firm timeline to VP promote, etc.)

提前让他知道，如果您选择的话，您将让当前的雇主对抗。这样一来，您就确切地知道您的两个选择是金钱，职业发展等。

If the new bank you join is not taking off after a few months in you are going to want to be absolutely sure the old firm wouldn't have fast-tracked you to VP and showered you with $$$ if you had elected to stay.

只是知道这将是一个bit子... mo/BO功能将fall on your shoulders...every template having to be made again from scratch...business development initiatives...you're looking at 90 hours a week at best and probably more like 120 hours on average for the first year or two. In addition, since you'll be so lean, will you guys even have India/CapIQ/FactSet/Pitchbook/Crunchbase/in-house design/etc access?

$ 10- $ 15毫米，除非降低雨水MM。If he's launching his own firm and that's all he's bringing in, I would be a little worried. That's the take home pay of some the partners at mine, not the revenue.

老实说，您的医学博士最好为他提供更好的包裹或谈判更好的包裹提供服务。

以书面形式获得所有内容。做最适合您职业生涯的事情。如果您确实是公司的重要资产，而您的MD试图脱轨，那么您可以随时尝试降落BB/EB再次作为计划B。

最大的风险是盖伊在接下来的3 - 4年中赚取$ 5毫米/年，因为他的设定相当（相当于当前的10 - 15年，大约是MDS持续多长时间），而您是没有名称的助理3依靠您的简历，人们对雇用并不感到兴奋，而且您还不足以独自生存。这就是为什么人们留在平台上与独立团队或整个团队没有跟随Rainmaker MD到下一家商店的原因。

100% agree to some prior comment about how $15MM isn't much for a MD. My group head told me over lunch one day that each MD is expected to bring in at least $35MM in fees a year. For the reference, I'm at a middle tierMM银行。

我在类似的商店精品店工作，这里有一些要考虑IMO的东西

1. Everyone is scared of not a ton of guaranteed comp but are you willing to bet on your MD and yourself? I get paid a % of deal fees like your proposal and I'll likely smoke the typical analyst comp this year. Just make sure you are honest with your MD about what you want and % of the deal fee. Do the quick math on what you think your typical deal fee would be - how do you feel about that? Some firms might have a management type fee (or w/e you wanna call it) that they rake 20% off the top of something before your calculation comes in. I would clarify him about that too. It is very nice being invested in deals but obviously downsides w the unpredictability.

2. 您必须真的相信您的医学博士。您认为他会带来什么规模的交易？我可能会打折任何更多的东西。对他来说，提出交易不仅会付款，而且会关闭，而且客户不会是难以销售的妈妈和流行商店，这一点非常重要。为什么？因为在一家初创店工作可能会稍微镜像LMM银行，而您可能正在与一些不老练的客户合作。并不是说那是最糟糕的事情，但可能不是您习惯的

3. 您的职责可能会比现在更广泛。上下两侧。例如，作为AN2本人，我要做很多事情，以至于大多数分析师永远不会碰到。真是太棒了，您会真正投资于您的交易。实际上，您将触摸交易的各个方面，以至于标题与您无关，您将与您的MD一起工作。但是，您可能会被困在做一些您可能不想再做的事情。这就是为什么要对您的MD雇用谁和多少人设定期望。显然，更多的人也帮助WLB。

4. 您将与您的旧公司燃烧一座桥梁。不确定您是否在乎，但这可能取决于您的发展方式。

5. Probably hurts yourPEopps有点，但我敢肯定您已经考虑了所有这些。

6. Feel like I glossed over comp but tbh I think this decision goes more than that. Just remember you have so much more leverage than you realize. he needs someone to lean on like you. And if the deal isn't sweet enough, you have a great firm to just stay at.

Edit: Only you know the facts to really make the decision but I say fuck it and go. So what if you make VP a few years earlier than normal at your other bank? You'll be acting like a VP in 2 years and could be making more. The other option has a written path, I say go write your own dude.

MD会不会有防止偷猎的非竞争？不是在银行业务中，但我听说过类似情况。

really sucks this thread was highjacked