HKU vs UK Target & Semi Target
I'm currently deciding between Hong Kong University (HKU), Warwick and Durham. I will be studying law (LLB) at either of the 3 schools.
I'm curious to hear if studying a non finance related course like Law will impact recruiting intoIBinHK, especially considering i'm not a mandarin speaker.
I also recognize that Warwick in the UK is obv > Durham forIBbut Durham also offered a significant scholarship (i'm an international student to bothHKand UK), so I am curious as to the difference in recruiting between unis of such caliber is in London.
Also, do students ever go to HKU and find placements in other cities (Singapore,NYC, London, Shanghai etc)? Or am I pigeonholing myself into HK? Vice versa with the previously mentioned UK schools to other cities^
最后,如果任何人都可以给我nsight to their experience going toHKright now i'd really appreciate it (especially as a student considering riots and general life etc)
Thanks
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好奇听到非HK为HKU毕业生招募场景。
Would like to hear about this also
老实说，我认为达勒姆有限责任公司是一个很好的选择作为安全网ib。A strong semi target, slightly below warwick forib。But for a law career, durham is miles ahead and is just below oxbridge, with kcl for tc at mc/sc/us firms. Taking into account both these fields: if you fail at getting intoib从沃里克（Warwick），您有一个合理的法律机会lse。If you fail atib从达勒姆（Durham）那里，您可以比WWK获得更多的TC，并且要获得更大的安全网。
And also, since law has a smaller population of people applying since you need a law degree or a story, you have a better chance at law than in at dham.
Wwk if your really dead set oniband can give up the law advantage that durham offers. Durham is a good safety net if you do fail atib。SC，MC和美国公司的TC可能有较小的人相对申请ib, so durham is stronger in that sense.
So imo, durham is better because strong semi foriband a good target(big difference placement compared to wwk) for law. If you can get intoibfrom warwick, you can get in from Durham because you gotta ace the interview rather than the degree aspect on ur cv unless ur talking about wbs and durham econ/business degrees.
In terms of onlyibspecifically forEBsin London, which is better durham or warwick or bristol? Everyone says warwick is target but I haven't seen many warwick alumni inEBslikeCVP and Evercore。
OP here.
Thanks for the info, do you mind if I pm you?
Yeah, pm right ahead
I'm a law dude who recruitedIB回到我在篱笆上时，我只是想评论说，根据我的经验，这是法律上的位置。达勒姆（Durham）>沃威克（Warwick）迈尔斯（Warwick）迈尔（Miles），并强烈地穿上了MC/白色鞋子，在以PE为中心的美国公司（想想Latham/Sidley/Skadden）遇到了许多达勒姆（Durham）帅哥，但不记得沃里克（Warwick）的任何人。而且，律师跳入金融并不是闻所未闻的，我知道CC的一个家伙GS1pqe之后的伦敦（作为协会，不是内部律师）。因此，这也是要考虑的事情。
Happy to chat OP if you'd care to DM.
HKppl will never understand their brands and schools will never be viewed as equal as Anglo Saxon sphere counterparts, even US/UK firms will take more time looking into PKU/THU students than HKUs
HKU将很多孩子放入HK肠易激综合症each year. Although not as target/prestigious as some UK targets or PKU/THU, you do get a better chance at networking and in-semester internships, which makes it easier to break intoHKIB。
OP here.
我如何无法说/写/阅读中文戏剧？如果不能，我完全被搞砸了吗？
Yeah it's gonna be pretty tight to be honest.
但是，只有多么神奇HKis, and HKU is top in Asia, I would go to HKU for the life experience. I'm sure you'll get interviews even though it may be slightly harder than from U.K. uni. A good thing that could help is if you did a semester atLSEor Wharton, or like a summer class atLSE(which is really not hard to get into) just to get familiarity around school name
同样要注意的是HKU在亚洲最高，而达勒姆（Durham）等则落后LSEOxbridge in the U.K. so you could frame your story the right way
There is going to be a lot less positions inIB/PE/VCavailable to you, you will have to focus on SEA coverage groups.
对于S＆T/HFS不过，还有很多不需要普通话的职位。
In Hong Kong, if you aren't studying finance / economics - good luck breaking intoIB。How man law students do you see inIBinHKvs英国？
InHK如果你在香港,你想br学习法律eak intoIB，您将与海外竞争HK/ Chinese students at Oxbridge / the Ivy leagues / the Chinese Unis which are miles ahead of HKU. You're also competing against the GBUS programmes at CUHK and UST / to a very very small extent, theIBCourse at HKU (GBUS equivalent at CUHK).
HKis pretty backwards in terms of "subject mobility" you're better of doing law here in the UK, getting intoIBhere and then lateralling back toHK/ China.
如果您不能说 /阅读 /翻译到中文，您将完全搞砸。
Also is this a troll post? Riots in 2021? The thing died in June 2020 with the NSL.
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1. An LLB won't be an issue forHKIBrecruiting at all as long as you can address it properly during the interview.
2. HKU is much better for breaking intoIBinHK, just try to learn some mandarin. Warwick and Durham will have you stopped right at the resume screening.
3. If you are female, it's possible to break into UKIBfrom Warwick / Durham otherwise the chance is really low due tovisasponsor and diversity issues which means you have to be extremely excellent.
4.去年我是国际HKUST和HKU，去了LSE。But if I only ended up with an offer from UCL I would opt to HKUST / HKU for sure.
Completely inaccurate. If you want to work in London Warwick/Durham are the key ones to go for since they're targets /high semi target in the UK. Saying they get you stopped right at the CV is completely tone-deaf. UCL would also have been fine btw, once you're at a target its up to you to get in and if you can't do so from UCL, you can't do so LSE either.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n1vLYhVzGB_g7_eJKCebn21C8dyb7x5r/view
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LOL WHO MADE THIS SPREADSHEET? You should also link people's linkedin there and stalk them LOL
HKU without a doubt
OP here. Thanks for the response, can you give me some more insight as to why HKU is the clear choice ?
higher quality people at HKU, by far, compared to Warwick or Durham... from friends, you'll feel like an actual BSD at HKU + sense of community, no such thing exists at Warwick (Durham better community cuz colleges, but people live under the shadow of being Oxbridge lite)
better lifestyle, experiences, future network
opportunities for finance are much better in APAC, and I've seen some join EMEA/NA as well (this is more dependent on your nationality & visa eligibility)
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合法的studies in any anglosphere educational institute will be exceptionally boring. You will spend three years on the common law; most practicing attorneys do not touch it and rely on statutory law (criminal, securities, trusts and estates, general corporate etc) go figure. If UK law degrees are anything like America's in terms of versatility, you won't break intoIB。I have worked with corporate lawyers in London, getting some magic circle/UK big law role is way, way harder than in the US generally (and especially if at a T14). Please feel free to DM any questions.
degree is irrelevant for ukIB, a law degree from a target/semi-target will be fine
Worth noting that Durham placement of students at magic circle and big USA firms is only second to oxbridge
Thanks for the response, do you have any idea if a vacation scheme from one of a top US/magic circle firm would aid in any recruitment into IB? Durham's placement into top firms was a welcomed surprise upon viewing both ranking tables/linkedin searches.
PS：我认识到，在顶级律师事务所使用度假计划过渡到IBmay sound ridiculous but please note i'm not opposed to entering a career in Big Law, i'm just curious to know where I would stand in each situation depending on where I end up for uni.
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Yeah because their cohort is enormous.. the prestige isn't even close toLSEor even the other Londons for that matter. Take a quick look at QS law rankings or graduate earnings after that. Durham just isn't it lol
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Congrats on some great options!
我的建议是达勒姆。
达勒姆 - 令人惊叹的法学院和金融半目标。您可以执行法律，然后旋转重组IB, where law would be best used. All of the magic circle hires there in case you want to start in law, and you'll have plenty of options between law and finance after.
Warwick -IB目标，但法律不如杜强。
HKU - may be tough to do law there and then try to move toIB。Also, Hong Kong isn't what it once was and many firms / jobs are leaving for Singapore.
祝你好运！
感谢您的详细回复！
Based on multiple responses like this that i've received + further research, Durham is shaping up to what appears as a well rounded option.
As per your comment on moving into restructuring, does that imply that a lateral from Big Law (magic circle/top US firm) to aRXIB/PEposition is possible/common? That's a great appeal if it is, and is one of the questions i've found little to no information on.
Thanks again!
Happy to help mate.
The easiest way to start inIB是直接从学校进行，因为这些是高度结构化的计划，尤其是BB/EBs。This is pretty much a universal truth regardless of what country you're in.
It's been a while since I've lived in England, so definitely do you own work on this, but in the US I've known ppl who've done a lateral transition.
One fellow I know interned in RX Big Law during law school, then did aRXEB之后，他非常讨厌法律，然后跳过了酒吧。另一个在大法律上花了几年RX, then made a lateral move to a boutiqueRXIBfirm. The caveat is both guys were in the US and both went to top law schools / top Big Law firms.
我不能说这在英国会怎样，但是尽职调查并不难。
Btw - if you go to Durham, pick castle as your college. Loads of fun partying in a castle.
祝您好运。Feel free to DM me anytime.
Cheers,
Seems like you went to Durham.
i disagree (didn't go to either Durham or HKU btw) -IB不像您说的那样结构，即没有特定的程序。他可以申请到任何地方HK。在当前的设置中，他们也很高兴他也通过Zoom采访。
i think the issue here is no one on this thread is most students have only lived in the U.K., and don't have a good sense for international opportunities / mobility, and the recognition of non European schools.
顺便说一句，我也不确定为什么有人去达勒姆而不是沃里克？
Didn't go to Durham, but lived in England as well as inHK。
Yes, Warwick is better in finance/econ than Durham, BUT OP is going to study law not finance/econ. For law, Durham is one of the best schools in the UK outside of Oxbridge, with all of the magic circle recruiting there. Law at Durham > law at Warwick.
Seems we disagree on how structuredIBrecruiting is. I've always found it to be extremely structured, esp at theBB/EBside. If you're talking the smaller boutiques, obviously recruiting isn't as structured .
HKU is a great school, no one is saying it isn't, butHKhas seen better days. High finance jobs are leavingHK对于新加坡，趋势正在加速。此外，OP可以选择在HKU研究法律，而不是金融会影响选择。
Part of the decision comes down to where OP wants to live after school. Asia - HKU, UK - Durham.
祝您好运。
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