香港作为非中国说话者
你好,
我对技术投资感兴趣(最好是私人 /VC或增长),目前在伦敦的一家顶级银行。
I have had this dream of working inHKsince I studied there (did a semester at HKU/HKUST) however I don't speak Mandarin nor Cantonese ( I speak English and 2 European languages).
Is there any path where I could work in tech investing in HK?
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也很好奇,但更涉及增长股权机会。在这里,任何清晰度都会有所帮助 - 我在美国。
@earthwalker7
通常,普通话是一个不言而喻的雷克,但我已经看到人们偶尔没有这样做。如果您是您,也会考虑SG,因为您不需要在那里知道普通话(尽管它仍然会有所帮助)
对ABC的观点是否像某些(但仍然非本地)的熟练程度一样黯淡?
Think this would depend more on the field - as an ABC with some proficiency you will be a good cultural fit but at the senior levels inIBfor instance you might need to know Mandarin well enough to win business
I really don't love SG to be honest :/ Also doing London -> SG is not really worth it IMO.
我已经看到有人搬到HK同样,但主要是在市场或非顶级扮演角色。只是想知道我如何在技术投资方面成为例外
哈哈为什么不呢?Ceteris Paribus我会去伦敦的SG。更好的天气,税率降低,更快的公民身份,更好的基础设施和公共交通工具
Singapore is quite hard to get visa these days as compared to Hong Kong
的确,他们更喜欢SG国民和公关持有人,但是HK如果您不说普通话,将是一场艰苦的战斗,所以两者都很困难
为什么要香?黄热病?
是的
I like the energy of the city, lots of things to do, easy to meet people, easy to travel anywhere in Asia ..
HK目前有最糟糕的隔离政策,如果您是一个寻求在这里工作的外籍专业人士,这是要考虑的事情。政府正试图遵守Covid Zero政策,希望重新与大陆接壤,而大陆的边界惨败。因此,您得到了两全其最差的人 - 无法前往大陆,也不能在国际上旅行。真的很烂。
Bro, we all know what you're looking for, there are plenty of places in China town where you can get it just looking for the flashing massage signs.
说真的,尽管我在HK几年前,巴克莱的MDI got drunk with in Wan Chai told me that you need to be a China-raised native speaker to get anyIB角色,甚至英国培养的中国孩子显然也没有相同的语言技能。我认为技术投资是一样的。
这个家伙知道。伦敦有很多亚洲人供您粉碎,如果您不能着陆,只要去伦敦的亚洲按摩店。黄色亚洲人到处都是一样。
像你能像华尔兹这样的西方人进入的日子已经一去不复返了hk并被当作国王对待。您在本地交易中添加零增量值,“不同的心态 /观点”只是BS.
以及欧洲/美国投资者的沟通技巧,如今,a)首选的出口是向大陆市场造成的估值且较少的政府审查余地,而b)中国人同样流利的英语,尤其是在国外受过教育的人。
此外,您可能会后悔作为亚洲工资的决定往往会更低,并且您必须更加努力。更不用说顶级场所有足够的土著人才,因此您唯一的现实镜头的地方是第二层的交易流量,付出了不低调的地方
It sounds superficially sensible when you string together "top bank in London", asia growth region, tech hottest sector, "communication skills", ~east meets west~, but reality is more bifurcated than you think
我的诚实建议是在HK卸载您的意愿,或招募科技投资商店,例如Apax/Vitruvianhk/中国办事处,然后进行借调或永久性的行动。这样,如果亚洲无法解决,您对冲职业风险,您仍然可以回到伦敦
你们当中有多少人只是考虑被放置大声笑真是太疯狂了。我不是亚洲女孩的特别是我。
回复:借调,问题是1)我坚定的香港办公室文化是可怕的,2)我想在银行业中停留更长的时间。
Maybe a growth firm withHKoffice would be best, but let's see how selective I can be on that front ... Also I would rather have done 5-10 yrsHKand back than the other way around
这个家伙很重要,让我笑了起来。+SB
It's not about language even. It's a cultural barrier, they prefer to work with their own people.
问问自己,作为香港增长投资者,您将拥有什么优势?
我的意思是,没有。但这与伦敦在东欧或北欧公司的投资相同。除了我的心态与中国同事的心态不同,这可能会给桌子带来不同的看法。坦率地说,在与欧洲或美国投资者交谈以获取未来的回合和退出策略时,可能会更好。
idk,我一直在工作HKdeals and language wasn't an issue. Although it would have been better to be a native speaker for sure
目前基于HKand also don't speak Chinese - think从签证观点,如果您可以转移到公司的HKoffice and then look for jobs when you get here. Once your company sponsors your initial visa, it's then quite easy to transfer the visa to another employer.
When you don't speak Chinese it's really about finding a company where management is at least partly non-chinese, so takes some extra time looking/networking but I think there are still opportunities for you eg. Silverhorn / Brinc and other smaller shops. Also sometimes the larger teams accept non-chinese speakers but definitely helps if you're already here.
(I was recently hired by a Chinese bank在to theirECMteam. The bank is specifically looking to hire more westerners to become more international.)
I was told while I was out there that Chinese banks don't charge Chinese clients fees forECMwork and so Western banks can't really compete on MainlandECM, is that true?
Think it's partly competitive rates but other part is that I think most ChineseIB在中国大陆有更好的联系(大多数HKIPO是大陆公司),西方银行中的许多中国人才已搬到中国肠易激综合症.GSand MS are still strong inECM但是越来越多的CITIC,CICC和Haitong正在向上移动ECM排名。
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