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  • InterninIB - Gen
Nov 27, 2021 - 2:38pm

Sweatshop across the board but would specifically advise againstfsg/levfin; top-heavy issues, lots of pitching, financings don't always get approved etc

Dec 7, 2021 - 1:43am
Future Grimes, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Every group at MS is top 2 in Europe except LevFin (Maybe top 5 - the firm has a very limited balance sheet historically). Tech is strong with good culture (1 protected weekend/month etc.) and decent exit opps but hard to get in, especially as an incoming intern. M&C is probably the strongest group of the bank (and Europe) but also a very big sweatshop with lots of live deals, however, exit opps are superior if you survive.

  • InterninIB - Gen
Dec 8, 2021 - 3:11pm

MSlevfinisn't even top 10 let alone top 5, don't know where you're getting this info from. I'd go to the extent of saying that if you're interested inlevfin, you'd probably get better dealexperience at unicredit

  • Analyst 2inIB - Gen
Dec 9, 2021 - 2:03pm

What do you base this on? I have seen Morgan Stanley be left-lead on some serious transactions, such as the recent T-Mobile EUR 3.2bn financing package for the buy-out of Warburg Pincusand Apax. Although MS might not play in the top of the league tables, I feel like this is mostly driven by limited volume but when they execute, it's a left-lead on large transactions (which is way more important than being MLA, passive bookrunner, on a transaction). Or am I making a wrong observation here?

Dec 9, 2021 - 1:52am
Future Grimes, what's your opinion? Comment below:

They are both very strong but I would say that M&C has the slight upper hand here. Nevertheless, exit opps and potential for banking career are great at both and M&A might beat M&C in culture.

  • Analyst 2inPE - LBOs
Dec 9, 2021 - 5:38am

M&C,TMTand M&A are perceived as the best groups there.

As opposed to what the user above said, culture inTMTis not good, at least in terms of hours. Heard from two different sources that they were going home 4am on a daily basis; that was the norm for them. Besides that, maybe the culture is not bad, I have no idea tbh, but the hours are horrible. And yeah, it is maybe the most sought-after team by interns, so quite difficult to get in.

M&C does cool stuff too, but also long hours (maybe not as much as TMT).

Regarding M&A, it is a very good team for exits, but theydo not take interns, so forget about it if you are OC/SA. However, you can intern at another team and then ask to be placedFTthere. Keep in mind that this team is also very sought after, so probably you wouldn't be the only intern doing it.

  • Analyst 2inPE - LBOs
Dec 9, 2021 - 7:10am

I mean the tech team, sorry for the naming mistake. You can ask people there about their hours if you don't believe me. 4am was the situation as far as early summer; don't think it has changed since then.

Regarding M&A taking interns, that was not the case for the last OC intake at least. I know people currently doing the OC and people in the M&A team and I know that for a fact.

edit: throwing shit just because of a naming mistake is dumb.

Dec 9, 2021 - 9:53am
Calabi-Yau, what's your opinion? Comment below:

M&A takes interns and there's noTMTgroup...

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  • Analyst 2inIB-M&A
Dec 9, 2021 - 6:35pm

It's actually split between O&G and BMG. Both are probably on the weaker side esp. vs rest of the groups at MS.

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Dec 15, 2021 - 6:09pm

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