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I came into myBBfirm with a major inferiority complex - I don't have a STEM background, I didn't intern with the group, and I'm from a non-target school. I got offered a信用交易position, it's not distressed debt orHY, which I heard have cooler people, but I'm still shocked at how seemingly weird the people on my desk seem.

I'm sure they're good at what they do, it's a well regarded desk on the street, probably top 5, but they're not the MIT computer science or Princeton math types. Just a bunch of not cool dudes from non-target schools.

Is this surprising? I thought either 1) they'd be lacrosse players with tons of confidence from Duke or Virginia or 2) STEM majors from Ivy's, the types of people who enjoy explaining the Greeks and convexity while at a bar.

It seems like they're neither and are just average. I'm not trying to knock them, they seem nice and again, I'm sure they're good otherwise they wouldn't be top 5 on the street in their product. But am I missing something here?

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2021年10月7日- 10:44pm
oil_quant, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Having had experience working with the "prestigious"BB人群以及“非目标”身体交易人群,我更喜欢后者。

那些不以社会地位感到自豪的人(即使他们倾向于收入超过银行同行)往往更平易近人,并且在他们期望您吸引他们的那种有毒的精神病患者的氛围中更少。

2021年10月7日 - 11:29 PM
D.O.U.G., what's your opinion? Comment below:

你是。

People of all types sit on desks. The stereotypical "trader" type pushed by the fallacy class onWSO, would have you believe that unless you fall into a certain category, you will never get the opportunity or be good.

成为一个好的交易者只有两个规则。赚钱,在这个开明的时代,成为一个体面的人。

Over the many, many years traders have been old, young, male, female, gay, straight, white, black, yellow, ivy league, former truck driver, nose pickers, triathletes, Magic the gathering players and lax bros.

一点都不重要。

重要的是,您对自己的机会以及您所做的最好的事情所做的一切。

Namaste.

D.O.U.G.

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  • 副1VC
Nov 2, 2021 - 1:33pm

What is the stereotypical trader? I use to be an execution trader lol.

Oct 8, 2021 - 1:41am
Lighting_Strike, what's your opinion? Comment below:

You're missing the point of life, god do people really walk around worrying about nonsense like that. You and everyone else is going to die at some point, lets get over this idea of being 'cool' or 'average.' Everyone is average or below average at something.

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2021年10月8日 - 上午9:44
DeltaDecay, what's your opinion? Comment below:

我可以添加这个,那些知道自己的狗屎并且是好的交易者的人通常往往不会炫耀。他们对自己和自己的方法充满信心。警告是我对这些人的大部分接触,一直在进行身体交易。当然,身体上也有傲慢的人,但是给定的身体数量也较低,这也是关于管理人际关系,如果人们讨厌您,他们会在市场赋予机会时搞砸您。

无论桌子是否“酷”基本上都被外面看的人标记。无论您是交易三角洲的产品, options, wheat or pork bellies all that matters is can you make money. What I've found is traders respect that over the particular product you are trading given the different dynamics of the different trading desks.

2021年10月9日-2:47 PM
Pope Francis, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Why are you guys talking bout physical, this guy clearly stated credit trading not commods. OP I guess it took you 23+ years on this planet to learn that stereotypes don't really reflect reality?

  • 初级交易者S&T - Comm
Oct 10, 2021 - 10:11am

您只是生气了,您没有进行身体交易。他们从经验中提供了很好的建议。看不到其他信贷交易者的帮助。

  • 分析师1IB- gen
2021年10月10日至11:32 AM

Op are you a stem superstar from MIT?

Were you Captain of the lacrosse team at UVA?

What qualifies you to put down these "average " people that hired you?

  • 实习生HF - Other
Oct 10, 2021 - 12:21pm

作为麻省理工学院的Stem学生,去那里确实使事情成为一个天才和“聪明”之间的视角。作为一个只是“聪明”的人,很难意识到自己的智力限制。话虽这么说,我们中的许多人只是“聪明”的孩子表现不错。我的大多数朋友都在持有TC软件包的优惠范围为200k-400k。

无论如何,不​​要浪费时间试图以一种奇怪的方式理解您的同事,而只是努力使自己变得更好。

  • 实习生Consulting
Oct 17, 2021 - 9:32pm

this is so true. going to a top school showed me I'm just an average 'smart' with a good work ethic. there are true geniuses with some natural talent who also work hard, and they're just on a different level

Oct 13, 2021 - 9:15am
Nijikon, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I learn on the side that you'll meet tons of diff ppl, outside the MIT stems and Duke sportsman, on the desk

我会说,我说我Kindda明白了为什么有人可能会尝试将它们击倒。当我没有经验时,如果我处于您的位置,我会提出一个问题,一群普通人最终如何在街上排名前5位。

My opinion is that they're riding on the bank's brand. Very easy to be top 5 when market goes to you for a 100bps wide trade just because your bank only offers the product or you're bank X

Oct 30, 2021 - 8:51pm
tangentially-interested, what's your opinion? Comment below:

> how did a bunch of average people end up being top 5 on the street

The premise could be mistaken. They couldnotbe average, but OP might not be in a position to see what makes them exceptional.

2021年11月8日 - 4:59 AM
Nijikon, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Ok. You're right. In the universe of all applicants toBBs, these said ppl on the desk are NOT average.

An argument can be made in the universe of all science graduates from top schools who applied, there will exist an average person in the set of said ppl on this particular desk. Average person got in because he fit well in the team and was coachable. But he isn't able to push the boundaries of innovation and come up with a mathematical approach to derisk a 100M notional position with the market moving against your book

Nov 8, 2021 - 4:54am
Nijikon, what's your opinion? Comment below:

You're telling me going back last 5 years, ALL Traders and Strats atBBare from a target?

Oct 19, 2021 - 9:12am
偏心, what's your opinion? Comment below:

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2021年11月3日 - 10:01 AM
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