White People Benefit Most from Aff Action
不断地看到白人的所有这些发牢骚的帖子,他们抱怨所有少数民族都从事25万美元的高金融工作,而他们坐在90%白人的办公室里。
Statistically, white women benefit the most - by far - from AA more than anyone else. And when you look at things like ivy admissions, the only reason places like HYP aren't almost entirely comprised of Asian students (who statistically outperform almost all other racial groups on paper) are because institutions are afraid to allow white people to become the vast minority and alienate white applicants/money.
If the world was a complete meritocracy, Joey from the Long Island private high school with a 3.85 might not have gotten into Harvard without admissions taking race into account to ensure a "diverse" class. It's almost like you all think that if your high paying job or high ranking college isn't filled with all white men, then something is wrong and everyone else must be unqualified. Gross.
So please leave the AA tears offWSO。而且,如果您害怕世界上的Jamals和Carmens即将参加您的午餐,那么在您坐在卡普里岛的避暑别墅中,更加努力地努力工作,并关闭F ***。
看到统计数据引用链接:
https://www.acluok.org/sites/default/files/wp/wp--
https://www.vox.com/2016/5/5/25/11682950/fisher-sup间
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I would be very concerned that someone named Jamal is trying to steal my food.
You make a lot of false claims with no data, which means you're just making this up.
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
Just added references if you need it.
>vox
Why did you say "white people" benefit in your subject if you're primarily talking about "white women" - it's a bit misleading.
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
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Learn more>Statistically, white women benefit the most - by far - from AA more than anyone else.
The only true thing you said...
通常,这里的白人通常不是抱怨AA。今天的话题是例外。
整个主题是抱怨白人的人。我们如何敢于存在。
"Work ethic, work ethic" - Vince Vaughn
It is going to end up not being much different from the other AA topic from today or the ones we see weekly.
白人没什么错。但是抱怨有人在做得比其他人做得更好时正在向您偷窃。每个种族群体都有一些烦人的质量。关于平权行动的抱怨是对白人。
No one is complaining about people being white.
people are complaining about white people complaining. Big difference. Why are white dudes always acting so oppressed holy shit lol , turn off CNN retards
哦,酷。这些线程中的另一个。因为这个话题从未在WSObefore and the matter will definitely be settled once and for all in this thread.
If you don't like it, don't add to it.
Fixed it for you in brackets.
主要同意。如果更多的亚洲人参加运动或将孩子送入同一大学(目前这是亚洲人对美国相对较新的情况),那么他们将获得白人相同的好处。这都不是在种族的基础上完成的。
But why do you think people aren't scared of losing their jobs to minorities through affirmative action? Isn't that the reason most people are against it, because they think people with less qualifications will take their jobs just because of skin color?
I think people are against it on abstract terms rather than day-to-day considerations in terms of employment (for admissions it is more visceral). I do not think it is an active concern for many in the office. Its usage varies so much by field and the degree of scarcity affects how it is perceived. If you are trying to obtain a tenure track position (there are so few of them) or become a doctor, it will be more significant than say finance at the middle to upper levels.
The claim that white women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action is incredibly misleading. It conflates two sets of policies - bans on gender/race employment discrimination (what's helped white women) and boosts for certain minority groups in college admissions and hiring (what's usually referred to as "affirmative action"). The latter currently provides minimal benefit to white women.
此外,我们还有来自已禁止平权行动的州的案例研究,然后看到竞争性机构中的白人入学率增加了,这表明这些计划没有帮助,例如:https://wwww.latimes.com/californimes.com/california/story/story/story/2020/2020/2020-08-22/prop-2019s-肯定 - 划空 - 绑定了黑色 - 黑色和拉丁美洲裔核对奖和薪水
I 100% agree with you OP, I believe we should discriminate against women.
When it comes to law school applications, white women don't get a boost, but URMs have roughly a 7% advantage.
https://blog.powerscore.com/lsat/do-underrepresented-minority-urm-applicants-have-a-law-school-admissions-advantage/
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
这低估了优势。您会在后端看到它,因为教授提到了这一事实,因此没有AFF行动承认参加法律评论或T13班上的上半部分,而学校爆炸而没有反驳索赔。
任何引用Vox作为来源的人.... oof
Your sources are pretty garbage.
The first source says that affirmative action benefits Asians.
您的第二个消息人士说,平权行动使对拉丁美洲人,亚洲人和黑人担任管理工作的白人妇女有益,但认为亚洲人受益人对平权行动
The third source is mostly dedicated to explaining the fourth source.
The fourth source is concerned with Asian Americans finishing high school and college.
这些都没有解释您的论点。这是来自哈佛平权行动法院的案件,它说白人和亚洲人都没有从平权行动中受益。
https://www.law.georgetown.edu/georgetown-law-journal/wp-content/uploads/sites/26/2020/2020/04/shah_ahah_ahr_ahh_ahr_affirming-affirming-affirmatimation-affirmative-crirmative-action_ada.pdf
So the benefit towards whites is mostly a result of the fact that whites are more likely to play sports or have a parent who attended since Asians are relatively new to the US.
What about the white people from non-wealthy families that don't have summer houses in Capri? AKA most of us
Please tell me one example how a white male has benefitted from affirmative action?
"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
Very anecdotal, but as a black woman who recently interned at aGS/多发性硬化症/JPM我吓了一跳,我轻松通过的难易程度the recruiting process compared to my non-diversity peers. I spent hours on end learning accounting and valuation concepts, working through M&I 400 practice questions and reading about recent deals that were of interest to me. I was asked a grand total of zero technical questions across my five interviews. Make no mistake: these firms lower the bar to abysmally low levels for racially diverse candidates and it's really frustrating for some of us. I genuinely want to believe that I would've earned the spot in a merit-based process, but I'll never know. I'm left with an unshakeable, lingering feeling of being an imposter. It's deprived me of my sense of pride in my accomplishments and I resent being tokenized as a black woman. Ever wondered why there's always a photographer at these firmwide diversity events? How else is David Solomon and the PR team going to respond to the DEI Twitter mob?
Based on the title of this post alone, I was prepared to read a humorously satirical piece. But this post is a great reminder that my views on race - that we should eradicate racial discrimination of any kind, including race-based hiring of historically underrepresented racial minorities - is becoming increasingly less mainstream. I think a lot of people on this forum need to relinquish their white savior complexes. We are capable and we do not need your condescending special treatment.
我认为这是一个破碎nt message for an audience that is - I assume - predominantly white and male. I speak on behalf of myself, my family and my close friends as I write this reply. We don't all think the same, and some of us would greatly appreciate it if we were treated as individuals, and not members of a helpless racial group in dire need of your handouts.
sounds like fake news - i'm involved in recruiting and this is impossible - zero technicals, sis? you don't have to lie to make a good point (which is that all forms of non-merit based admissions should go away and be replaced by blind processes (scientists do this, pilots do this, but somehow clubby corporate environments use the big lie of "culture" to pick winners of different kinds (rich kids, cool kids, cute kids, smooth-talking kids, quota hires including white women and other "sacred" groups). Why?
The most 'technical' portion of the interviews tested my general understanding of investment banking. Key functions of an investment bank, their role in the global economy, how banks differ from one another and why I thought I was best suited for the investment banking division at this particular firm. I was also asked to discuss any recent deal that was of interest to me. If I can answer the question by reading the job post or skimming WSJ once a week, I don't consider it technical. Perhaps my definition of a 'technical question' is narrow but I can assure you that the regular process at this firm sounded far more intense.
I also hope that my experience is anecdotal. However, I doubt that diversity interviews are as rigorous as regular interviews. Since you're involved in recruiting, I'd love to hear you weigh in on your firm's approach to diversity recruiting and how it differs from the regular process.
100% fake news, LOL.GS在所有地方,都以其“验证”的面试风格为代表。跳过技术是令人发指的。/此外,您是否想到您在巡回赛中表现更好?
None of my black colleagues had cakewalk interviews. We were cramming like mad together and deliberating after interview our sessions. They were easy for no one.
无论如何,您是否正在杀死工作都没关系。/但同意,我甚至说大多数黑人员工都在工作,因为他们实际上必须努力工作。和秘密的时间...许多人也没有 *来自挣扎的背景。令人震惊的是,游戏中有富人和常春藤联盟的黑人孩子。
对我的招聘经验的最慈善解释是,我的背景(STEM领域 /先前技术实习中的目标 /强大GPA)使他们相信我是一位高素质的候选人,因此,我将获得相对的技术知识舒适。我还认为我在面试中表现出色,在这家公司中,我进行了特别有趣且令人愉快的对话,这些对话可能会损害我原本会进行的任何类型的技术评估。
I'm open to that possibility, but I am doubtful given my experience and the experiences of my peers in my social/professional circle. Believe it or not, it's actually very refreshing for me to hear pushback on my experience. I certainly hope it's not representative of the typical diversity recruiting experience and I plan to learn more when I join full-time.
I agree with your point on the background of diversity candidates, but I'd take it one step further. In the 21st century, the greatest impediment to breaking intoIBisn't race. It's a variety of other factors, like socioeconomic status. The wealthy and well-connected have a variety of advantages in recruiting, regardless of race.If you don't get theIB您想要的工作,这可能不是因为在加州大学伯克利分校学习环境科学的29岁副总裁是一个邪恶的种族主义者。这可能是因为您不是最合格的候选人。这就是社会经济背景等各种因素和您的成长经历更加相关的地方。这些多样性计划将种族作为“挣扎背景”的代理,我认为这是可耻的。
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