Citi vs PWP?

I have offers at both of these banks and plan to accept one on Monday. Does anyone have any thoughts on the differences between the two? Appreciate any insights into the following:

  • Deal flow
  • Culture (either joiningTMTor HC)
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Comments (48)

  • InterninIB - Gen
May 22, 2021 - 8:49pm

Really dependsBBvsEB. Both are similar strength-wise (Not TMT)

May 22, 2021 - 8:54pm

Are you out of your mind lol? PWP hands down

"Markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent."

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  • Analyst 1inIB - Cov
May 22, 2021 - 8:59pm

Citi, unless you really prefer the boutique structure. Most people have never heard of PWP outside of finance. And inside finance it doesn't have the same history asplaces like EvercoreandLazard.

  • Analyst 1inIB - Cov
May 22, 2021 - 10:22pm

Positives of boutique structure include less red tape and bureaucracy (very prevalent at big global banks Citi andBofA), fewer people to deal with (No M&A group etc.), and more camaraderie/closer relationships across smaller analyst classes.

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  • InterninIB-M&A
May 22, 2021 - 9:07pm

Easy PWP. Better pay, better culture, better average exits

  • InterninIB-M&A
May 22, 2021 - 10:50pm

PWP is actually no longer generalist across the analyst program fwiw.

OP, you have to take PWP hands down. The only things that matter, comp, dealflow, culture, and mentorship will be much much better at PWP

Citihas weak advisory in both of those spaces and really just gets on a ton of deals in a financing capacity (yuck!). Do yourself a favor and go to PWP

  • Analyst 1inAM - Equities
May 22, 2021 - 10:37pm

I would only take citi if you are unsure whether you want to stay in finance since the brand is 100x stronger outside the world of finance (no denying this).

However, PWP has better culture, exits and compensation (know former & current bankers there).

May 22, 2021 - 10:53pm

The only reason to pick Citi is if you want to leave finance at some point because Citi has a good brand name. PWP has better pay, better exits toPE, and better culture. Even if you exit to corpdev, those departments are mostly ex-IB guys, and so they know the PWP name.

May 23, 2021 - 11:01am
Take PWP all day, it's not the most popular name outside of finance, but within you'll get looks everywhere. Greater modeling / M&A experience, pay, and culture. Easy choice
  • Associate 2inIB-M&A
Jul 29, 2021 - 8:40am
Take PWP, fastest growingEBon the street. It'll position you very wel
  • ProspectinIB - Gen
Aug 19, 2021 - 3:05pm

Just inputting from what I've gathered.

If SF tech,

would go for whichever group you enjoyed more. However, I've interviewed with PWP tech in the past, got very stressed vibes from them. I've heard from different groups and banks that it's probably their worst group. Rough seniors and lots of pitching. Maybe things changed over covid?

If HC SF

PWP I've heard is pretty much the opposite of its tech group. Would definitely pick them if HC.

  • Associate 1inIB - Cov
Aug 19, 2021 - 4:04pm

I mean I love it how people here onWSOhave some type of different league tables or whatever

If it'sTMT, pick Citi hands down. Simple search on Mergermarket with the following parameters

(1) Target or Acquirer must be from the USA

(2)TMTsector

(3) Time period: 2019 till now

(4) Announced deals excluding lapsed or withdrawn bids

Result:

(a) Citi -> 101 deals with combined value of USD429bn

(b) PWP -> 23 deals with combined value of USD132bn

AnyUSBBbalance sheetbank will do a lot more deals than a boutique such as PWP, which can only offer M&A advice

Knowledge of financing will help you anywhere, be it inPEor Corp Dev or even at a boutique bank such as PWP. Why? Because you can't do M&A without financing

Pick Citi, it will make you a well-rounded banker and it will expose you to some very good deal flow, as I laid down above

Aug 19, 2021 - 5:51pm
这是无关紧要的,花旗100 x更多办事处+ employees (therefore analysts in ur class), at PWP ur likely to work on these insanely large deals and at Citi ur chance is likely way more slim. Also, "well rounded banker" is usually anyone who is just jealous of the bank's M&A group which has better exits, learning, and comp.
  • Associate 1inIB - Cov
Aug 19, 2021 - 6:09pm

lol what should I be jealous of? Regardless of how many more offices Citi has, they only have most of theTMTteam in two locations I presume -NYCand SF. I'm guessing probably ~20 analysts, that means on average one analyst ~5 announced deals per analyst in the US

PWP has ~4TMTanalysts in London so probably up to ~10 in the US

Let's say only slightly more than 5, so ~7. That's ~3 announced deals per analyst

Nice try PWP HR team

  • ProspectinIB - Gen
Aug 19, 2021 - 6:29pm

I think both of you guys are forgetting thattmtis divided into two groups at both banks (T/MT). Where MT makes up a greater portion of deal flow than Tech. You may want to look into that considering PWP and Citi Tech may vary differently due to that in deal flow.

  • Associate 1inIB - Cov
Aug 19, 2021 - 6:44pm

Again I dont get why people are wanking so much when they hear PWP... I mean I don't really care about "I hear PWP SF team is great" or "my friend works at PWP and their tech team is amazing, deal flow is great" because I like the facts.

Simple search on Mergermarket with the following parameters

(1) Target or Acquirer must be from the USA

(2) Tech (consists of computer services, computer software, computer hardware, semiconductors and internet / ecommerce)

(3) Time period: 2019 till now

(4) Announced deals excluding lapsed or withdrawn bids

Result:

(a) Citi -> 78 deals with combined value of USD202bn

(b) PWP -> 14 deals with combined value of USD16bn

  • Analyst 2inIB-M&A
Aug 22, 2021 - 4:11pm
PWP is more $, more prestige, better exits (relative to class ofc), and greater modeling experience.
  • Analyst 2inIB-M&A
Aug 22, 2021 - 4:23pm
Citi: More well known brand (outside of finance), much more easily lateral to another industry, larger alumni network, marginally shorter hours, more people to meet during your analyst years, maybe perks like a nicer office/external benefits PWP: Higher salary (exponential at the senior level), greater learning/modeling experience, more interaction with senior bankers, more "prestige" in the world ofIB/PE/HF, better exits to B-school's likeHBSbecause of the founders, tight-knit group and perhaps a laid back culture. Main benefits of both; I would personally chooseEBoverBB, but that's just preference. Just decide what you like best!
Aug 29, 2021 - 7:57pm

PWPTMTis not what it was a few years ago. Look up the Business Insider article with this:

After flashy hires and a big buildout,Perella Weinberg媒体和电信团队也已经面目全非。我们tracked the exodus - and what it says about the landscape for blockbuster M&A deals.

Take a closer look than what this forum is telling you and talk to people at both banks and inTMTgroups at neither bank for an unbiased take

  • Analyst 2inIB-M&A
Aug 29, 2021 - 9:00pm
Dumbest comment I've ever read, look at their recent deals in 2021 lol (especially in tech & fintech). I'm at anotherEB, but don't spread misinfo
Sep 12, 2021 - 10:35pm

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