非目标学校之间有区别吗?
I'm really curious to hear some opinions on non-target schools. It seems that some people think with hard work and networking you can get aBBIB实习. Other people have said that you are doomed no matter how much you network or achieve.
让我们假设成绩,经验,课外活动都是相同的。唯一的变量是说学校,例如南佛罗里达大学或密歇根州立大学与迈阿密达德学院或威斯康星大学米尔沃基大学等学校。
The main difference being that USF and MSU are both quality non-target institutions, while Miami Dade and UWM are not.
Would that impact a student's success at networkinginto aBBIB实习?
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Absolutely. School "prestige" isn't binary yes or no, people will still have heard of schools like USF/MSU and they will have alumni on the street, or people in the same athletic conference (for example, MSU students could reach out to other B10 alum). A totally random school no one has heard of absolutely hurts you and IMO nearly becomes a must-transfer situstion.
There's definitely quality non-targets (think large state schools or very good LAC's) where there's someIBalumni, investment clubs etc.
然后是极端的非目标。我去过的学校有一个1000人的学生。没有财务俱乐部,也是唯一在银行工作的校友是atJPMback office. Northwestern mutual is literally one of the most sought after positions at the career fair. When going to one of those schools, it's extremely hard because you have no one to guide you. No professors that even understand whatIBis and how you would get there, a career office that's useless and so on
现实是借方=信用和资产负债表的平衡,无论您是去沃顿商还是去蓝山州立大学。当然,两者之间存在经验差异,但是从教室的角度覆盖的纯含量来看,您将覆盖大约90%的完全相同的材料。因此,什么是定义“目标”学校与“非目标”,这取决于谁在您想要的行业/角色中拥有最多的校友(不仅在金融中),因为校友通常会通过招募他们的学校来付款然后,您从一个奇异的地方碰到了一大批校友,然后繁荣成为目标学校。因此,要回答您的问题,从您的示例中找到前者的明矾与后者的比例要高得多,默认情况下会更容易闯入。同样,如果您想在海湾进行软件工程,那么您就可以更有可能从Cal和Stanford vs.俄克拉荷马州或堪萨斯州找到明矾CSprograms) or petroleum engineering where you're going to find more alums from the Texas schools vs. an east coast LAC....target is all relative and is just a big numbers game.
University of Wisconsin Madison is a solid non target though. Our banking club sends people to bulge brackets frequently. It's definitely better than MSU. Wisconsin Milwaukee is pretty ass though you're right all the retards go there
Yeah definitely!! I love UW Madison, but I ended up at IU instead :-/
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了解更多There's absolutely a difference. Most people mentally bucket schools into something along the lines of excellent, very good, good, respectable and never heard of it. You're a lot more credible coming out of a state flagship than directional state.
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If you are choosing between non-target options, you want to go to a non-target with a big alumni base that gives you the easiest path into the industry via networking (much more painful to try and get non-alumni to pick up the phone).
The non-targets with the largest alumni bases are the ones that attract a ton of kids from suburban new jersey, long island, DMV, etc. (think Indiana and Penn State). These kids are more likely to come from families where parents are white collar professionals that tell关于金融工作的孩子, and / or know people from their high schools and friend groups in the industry. The more people targetingIB, the more that get jobs, the larger the alumni base.
There's a reason why these schools place 50+ kids a year intoIBdespite having the same academic reputation as say Wisconsin or Michigan State. It's not like some VP from Harvard is looking at an Indiana resume and saying "wow, Kelley, this kid is definitely smarter than the University of Minnesota kid". They just have way more students interested inIBto begin with because of the demographic pools they draw from, which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy as alumni pull people from their school through.
Almost every big state school will have an investment club like Indiana and Penn State, from Rutgers to OSU down to Iowa. The difference is that Indiana and Penn State draw from a much larger pool of students interested inIB, and push more kids through to finance every year as a result.
Yeah it does. Someone said it above - people like to to bucket schools, but in reality it is a spectrum. I went to a non-target with alum at most top banks and as a result I was able to get interviews at said banks.
简而言之,每家银行的招聘通常分为三组:多样性池,目标学校(按银行)池,非目标学校池。非目标池基本上是一个推荐系统,因此在行业中拥有校友对于接受面试至关重要。
How about Caltech/CMU/Hopkins? What is the level of difficulty breaking in from these?
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