美国仍然是最好的国家吗?

the economist released this new study today that listed the best countries to be born in in regards to living qualities
the economist released this new study today that listed the best countries to be born in in regards to living qualities
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/01/daily-chart?fsrc=s…

the US topped the list in 1998 but fell all the way down to 16 in 2013., having countries like australia, singapore, hong kong, taiwan, austria ahead of it. I immigrated to the US in 2001 and I'm now a college student at a top 20 university. it's hard for me to imagine those countries are ahead when so many people are still trying to come here due to our higher education and job opportunities.

想法?

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10y
猫鼬, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Let me put it to you this way:

我来自东南亚的一个国家,去了HS。该国最好的学生申请来到美国,离开欧洲,澳大利亚等人,全都是才华横溢的学生,以及无法进入美国大学的更好的学生。

These rankings are all bullshit. Ask a poor valedictorian kid anywhere from Vietnam to Nigeria where do they want to go, and the single answer is the United States.

Maybe if you are not ambitious, and want to have a safe and comfortable life, then you can go to all these higher ranked countries. But for those with a raw desire to move ahead in life, the US is only game in town. Just ask me. (Although I have not achieved anything yet!)

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10y
ltohang, what's your opinion? Comment below:
JamesHetfield:
Let me put it to you this way:

我来自东南亚的一个国家,去了HS。该国最好的学生申请来到美国,离开欧洲,澳大利亚等人,全都是才华横溢的学生,以及无法进入美国大学的更好的学生。

These rankings are all bullshit. Ask a poor valedictorian kid anywhere from Vietnam to Nigeria where do they want to go, and the single answer is the United States.

Maybe if you are not ambitious, and want to have a safe and comfortable life, then you can go to all these higher ranked countries. But for those with a raw desire to move ahead in life, the US is only game in town. Just ask me. (Although I have not achieved anything yet!)

新加坡?

另外,如果有人可以为我回答这个问题,那将是非常感谢的。那些国家(例如大学)中最好的学校如何, national university of singapore, HKUST, peking U, etc. stack up against non-ivy top 20s such as vanderbilt, notre dame, georgetown, rice, etc?

10y
IlliniProgrammer, what's your opinion? Comment below:
ltohang:

新加坡?

Singapore's problem is that it's a tiny city state with few resources. And that is what the 21st century will probably be about. We will have eight billion very educated people on this planet, mostly in capitalist or state-monopoly capitalist regimes, and only so much grain, natural gas, oil, and water to go around.

马来西亚合并实验对于新加坡来说非常有趣。我从未住过新加坡或马来西亚,但是问问是否值得再次尝试会很有趣。

在马尔萨斯的世界观中,由于其资源/粮食生产与人口,美国将始终在富裕程度上处于最高状态。更多的资源manbetx3.0手机客户端和更好的技术与更少的人,尤其是在一个充满资本的世界中,意味着更大的富裕和更高的劳动成本。

10y
leveredarb, what's your opinion? Comment below:
JamesHetfield:
Let me put it to you this way:

我来自东南亚的一个国家,去了HS。该国最好的学生申请来到美国,离开欧洲,澳大利亚等人,全都是才华横溢的学生,以及无法进入美国大学的更好的学生。

These rankings are all bullshit. Ask a poor valedictorian kid anywhere from Vietnam to Nigeria where do they want to go, and the single answer is the United States.

Maybe if you are not ambitious, and want to have a safe and comfortable life, then you can go to all these higher ranked countries. But for those with a raw desire to move ahead in life, the US is only game in town. Just ask me. (Although I have not achieved anything yet!)

这是荒唐的。

have you ever heard of this place called London (aka the financial capital of the world)?

Also as an EM national your only game in town should be your home country as there is infinitely more money to be制成EMSthan in developed markets if you are a local.

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10y
IlliniProgrammer, what's your opinion? Comment below:

美国是最政治上和军事上圣able of the capitalist countries in the top twenty on that list.

The four countries more capitalist than the US on that list are tax-haven city states.

I mean, you could go and work in the UAE if you really wanted to, but autocracies have their issues...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-10/jailed-in-dubai-accused-wait-long-after-the-good-times-have-disappeared.html http://www.totalbankruptcy.com/news/articles/legislation/bankruptcy-a-crime-in-uae.aspx http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/dubai-has-always-been-ban_b_372795.html

Singapore, Hong Kong, and Taiwan are a little better, but they are tiny island nations with no resources, which is what the 21st century could very well be about.

如果确实如此,加拿大和巴西可能是21世纪居住的两个最佳国家。与阿根廷,南非和俄罗斯一样,他们是否能弄清楚如何举办中等监管的资本主义民主国家。

But the US will always be in the top five, maybe top ten, at least given current population and current resources.

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10y
Quaneaser, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Seems like an apples to oranges comparison. The US population is almost DOUBLE the size of the top 15 of that list COMBINED.NYCis bigger than most of those countries and no where near as homogenous. That's why I see it hard to put Singapore as a better place to be then the entire United States of America. US citizens have the freedom to live in any of the major metropolitan areas and they stack up perfectly well with Hong Kong/Singapore/etc.

The US has the best educational institutions, the largest companies, and the strongest political system out there. The opportunities for personal growth and achievement are virtually endless.

10y
AICCCIA, what's your opinion? Comment below:

[quote=Quaneaser]and the strongest political system out there. /quote]

That was a joke right?

Take a look at Singapore's government.

"It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer." - Albert Einstein
10y
Quaneaser, what's your opinion? Comment below:
AICCCIA] [QUOTE = QUANEARER:
and the strongest political system out there. /quote]

That was a joke right?

Take a look at Singapore's government.

How are you measuring strength of government? Again as I already stated it would be hard to compare a tiny country to the US in terms of long term performance of its financial centers as well as government stability.

10y
AICCCIA, what's your opinion? Comment below:
ltohang:
the economist released this new study today that listed the best countries to be born in in regards to living qualities the economist released this new study today that listed the best countries to be born in in regards to living qualities http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/01/daily-chart?fsrc=scn/tw/te/dc/birthright

the US topped the list in 1998 but fell all the way down to 16 in 2013., having countries like australia, singapore, hong kong, taiwan, austria ahead of it. I immigrated to the US in 2001 and I'm now a college student at a top 20 university. it's hard for me to imagine those countries are ahead when so many people are still trying to come here due to our higher education and job opportunities.

想法?

I doubt anyone who has answered so far has actually been to these countries ranked higher than the U.S. Of these ones ranked above the U.S., I've traveled or worked in 4: Australia, Singapore, Netherlands, and Hong Kong.

In terms of economic and political stability, as well as general quality of life, they all blow the U.S. out of the water. I will be returning to Singapore or Australia as soon as I can. Anyone who thinks the U.S. is still the best country in the world needs to go traveling and wake up the fuck up.

"It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer." - Albert Einstein
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10y
IlliniProgrammer, what's your opinion? Comment below:
AICCCIA:

In terms of economic and political stability, as well as general quality of life, they all blow the U.S. out of the water. I will be returning to Singapore or Australia as soon as I can. Anyone who thinks the U.S. is still the best country in the world needs to go traveling and wake up the fuck up.

Singapore has no natural resources; produces no food of its own; has little in the way of energy reserves or any metals.

In some ways, the island looks like a tax haven. That's great, but if 8 billion people who all want to be middle class continue putting pressure on global resources, Singapore可以find itself in trouble as the export walls start going up. From an economic (not cultural) standpoint, you guys really need to take another look at amerger with Malaysia。在过去的45年中,这两个国家已经现代化了很多。我想知道这次是否可以工作,这将使新加坡处于不稳定的资源状况。

我认为新加坡在接下来的六年中会做得很好。也许整整十年。我认为30 - 40年的前景更加可疑。如果新加坡在加拿大,我可能会同意您的看法。

10y
AICCCIA, what's your opinion? Comment below:
Illiniprogrammer:
AICCCIA:

In terms of economic and political stability, as well as general quality of life, they all blow the U.S. out of the water. I will be returning to Singapore or Australia as soon as I can. Anyone who thinks the U.S. is still the best country in the world needs to go traveling and wake up the fuck up.

Singapore has no natural resources; produces no food of its own; has little in the way of energy reserves or any metals.

In some ways, the island looks like a tax haven. That's great, but if 8 billion people who all want to be middle class continue putting pressure on global resources, Singapore可以find itself in trouble as the export walls start going up.

我认为它会在未来的5年内;也许整整十年。I have my doubts about the 30-40 year outlook.

他们的自然资源是最私人的去vernment in Asia and one of the most uncorrupt governments in the world. The stated long-term objective of the country is to become the "Switzerland" of Asia, providing a safe and private haven for the growing wealth of Asia.This economic model has served Switzerland well for hundreds of years.

"It's not that I'm so smart, it's just that I stay with problems longer." - Albert Einstein
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10y
SirTradesaLot, what's your opinion? Comment below:

IP -- What has gotten you on this Malthusian rampage lately? I mean, it's always a good thing to have resources, but seemingly, most of this guy's theories have been proven overly pessimistic many times. What makes you so confident it will be different going forward?

10y
IlliniProgrammer, what's your opinion? Comment below:
SirTradesaLot:
IP -- What has gotten you on this Malthusian rampage lately? I mean, it's always a good thing to have resources, but seemingly, most of this guy's theories have been proven overly pessimistic many times. What makes you so confident it will be different going forward?
This time we have 10 billion people, global warming, and most of the world's arable land under grain production. At the same time, labor is getting a lot cheaper in the west. That labor also happens to vote in some of the most resource-rich capitalist countries in the world- and Russia has already restricted a lot of resource exports.

Look, the market does have 15-20 year cycles of resources vs. equities. Malthusians- as well as long-term equity bears have always said "But it's different this time!" My argument isn't based on equity returns but rather on the cost of resources vs the cost of labor, which most people seem to think won't go up in the west anytime soon.

If we approach a global price for labor, and if that labor begins to come within an order of the global price of food, it's in workers' (read: voters) best interests to lower the cost of grain at home and raise it abroad, which resource exporting countries have the ability to do via trade policy.

Most of these countries have fairly strong militaries, rendering war an unlikely choice for importers. Net resource importers won't have many alternatives besides conservation; I'm dubious about how effective that will actually be given how much resource prices have gone up. Thus the resource exporters keep the same strategy of making it more difficult to export and the resource importers cannot improve their strategy.

That'nash平衡我正在接它。我并不是说我们一定会到达那里;我是说这是可能的,人们可能会意识到一些事情。

10y
Blank999, what's your opinion? Comment below:

The USA is the best place is you have a brain and know how to use it. It probably sucks for the lower half though.

随着您赚更多的钱,只需开始隐藏您的资产和/或准备放弃您的公民身份即可。我看到美国沿着欧洲破裂的道路走了,并以税收形式被公民盗窃而变得更加犯罪。

Minimize your tax exposure, hide assets, do whatever to pay the least amount. You owe it to great Americans to fight against the robbery the Federal Government inflicts on its citizens.

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Chai, what's your opinion? Comment below:

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