Graduating with Latin honors?
我即将毕业，在我的荣誉论文中几乎没有取得进步，以至于我强烈考虑不这样做。如果我完成它，并且足够好，那么我将毕业“ Summa Cum Laude”。如果我不这样做，那么我将以“高分辨率”毕业，这实际上具有更高的GPA截止。
我真的不关心学习经验at this point and am worried about the stress. I'm also worried that I'll put in a bunch of work and end up not finishing it anyway. The only merit is that I go to a decent flagship state school but not Michigan or UVA, so it would be nice to have the signal. I'll be at anEBso I'm not too sure if the signal is important or if the latin is much more impressive than distinction. Anyone have any thoughts? Did you find an uninteresting honors thesis worth it for the title?
I appreciate the advice!
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The importance of an honors designation?(Originally Posted: 09/25/2017)
My GPA is 4.48/5 (European school, equivalent to 3.7 in the US) and my school gives out High Distinction (equivalent to Summa Cum Laude) to people with GPA of 4.5 (3.75+ in the US) and higher. People with GPA 4.49 and below won't receive anything.
我正在考虑额外的学期，只是为了重做1课程...我想过要过度思考吗？我应该获得学位并完成它吗？
I mean, looking forward 3-5 years, leaving GPA on the resume seems ridiculous, while writing "Graduated with High Distinction" looks fine.
i guess it depends on what you want to do?? but i think you're way overthinking it- i highly doubt anyone will care what distinction you graduated with after you have 3-5 years of experiences...
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Overthinking it. Although that designation is nice to have, networking is more important. That is where you should spend more of your time.
What year are you? Is this your senior year - getting a 5.0 this year isn't good enough?
“如果您总是对自己所做的一切，身体或其他任何事情都限制，它将扩散到您的工作和生活中。没有限制。只有高原，您不得呆在那里，您必须超越它们。“- 李小龙
Is an honors degree worth the trouble?(Originally Posted: 02/26/2016)
大家好，
I go to IUB and am applying for the Kelley School of Business this semester. I was just curious if the honors program is worth the challenge? Does graduating with honors give you any real benefit in the corporate world besides an additional few words on your degree?
Basically, is it worth potentially having a slightly lower GPA to graduate with honors?
Thank you all in advance!
I went to a non-target public school (Honors) for undergrad. FWIW, I didn't even mention the Honors program in my resume.
Do I write an honor's thesis?(最初发布：2010年1月12日)
好吧，所以这是紧缩的时间。
I am a senior who locked up a job atMBBand I have to decide today whether or not to write an honor's thesis.
I really don't want to have that stress, so what I want to know is would it materially affect my business school applications to have written one?
Keep in mind that my GPA is on the low end at a 3.6.
It helps but won't push you over the top. You have a good enough GPA for top 5...would get the 700+ on GMAT; and do well at your consulting gig and try to do some ops orPEafterward (do bschool 4-5 years post grad)...
Don't do it--I tried this and was miserable. It won't help at all, my opinion.
Why do you think it would affect your chances for b-school?
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My thinking is that writing an honor's thesis shows more ambition, ability to work independently, take on a challenge, etc.
Bump. Same Q..
only if you wanna enter the academia (PhD or research-based MS programs)
Otherwise I'm 100% sure it doesn't matter at all for b-school. Plus, by the time you apply forMBA, you'd have plenty of work experience to talk about that shows ambition, independence and taking a challenge. Why waste your time? Go and have a blast on your last semester
Completing Honors Program/Writing Capstone Research Paper For Admissions(Originally Posted: 02/24/2015)
我目前是一名大四学生，知道我将申请MBAprograms after working for a few years. I'd love to hear from someWSOusers who have more knowledge pertaining to admissions about how being a graduate of an honors program affects an application, as well as how writing a 60 page research paper as an honors capstone affects an application. At this point, I'm not sure if that's where I want to allocate my time and welcome all viewpoints. Thanks in advance!
对不起，颠簸，但真的很想听到一个比我对此更了解的人
sorry, double post
Graduating with no honors but high GPA(Originally Posted: 05/31/2016)
So I'm graduating with a high GPA in both my major and overall (3.8+), but it looks like I won't be receiving any Latin awards (cum laude, honors, etc.) upon graduating . Will future employers look down on this/become suspicious? I'm graduating from an Ivy League school btw.
Why wouldn't you get any of those honors? Did you transfer?
Damn, is grade inflation at the Ivies really that nuts?
Don't think you have anything to worry about, though OP.
From my understanding, you only get honors if you do a thesis - which who cares? i highly doubt someone will ask you about that.
Honors is only granted if you did a thesis which I didn't because I wanted to enjoy my senior year lol. So I didn't get that.
And no I'm not a transfer.
Oh, I see now.
Still doubt anyone will care. My thesis has only ever helped me by giving me one more thing to talk about in an interview.
Anyone else have an opinion?
Won't really matter at all. To be honest, I probably would've assumed that you didn't bother to put it on rather than you didn't receive one.
CFAQuestion - Graduating Summa Cum Laude(Originally Posted: 05/02/2012)
Hey,
五月毕业的夏季成员数学和金融。
Is theCFA1 (I'll take in december) worth my time and money?
Thanks, B
Depends on what you want to do.....equity/fixed income research or PM related yes.....S&TorIBDno
What ovechkin08 said. I took and passed Level 1 the first year after college(if you have a math and finance background it should not be too hard), but gave it up when I realized I did not want be a PM or inER。
Cool, thanks for the input.
Hrrmmmm ask ourCFA专家（以下是他的旧名字）。
ToiletPaper aka Tony Perkis,Certified Fellatio Artist
Benjamin,
What do you want to do?
Ovechkin, I will disagree with you a bit. If the role is some kind of capital management (bank, insurance company, etc), or heavy FP&A, theCFAdoes help a lot. It's not just for PM orER。
At least this has been my first-hand experience.
(Disclaimer: I passed all three exams, and application for the Charter is pending).
People get their analysis of theCFAvery wrong. Kids who have never done it (but have read M&IWSOa bit) say it's useless forIBDetc... only good forAM。They ALWAYS fail to look at the alternatives, read the curriculum and will no doubt cite the "you should spend the time networking" line. That is bullshit, who is networking at 10pm? If you have the time (most do) there is no reason not to pursue it. You will learn something new, your knowledge of finance will improve - these are only good things. However, if you have the opportunity to gain real world experience (internship) or rebrand through a MFin take those options.
^^^^ +1000!!
I can't believe that I get Monkey Shit for this thread. To be fair, I am takingCFALevel 2 for my current job as Equity Research Associate covering Technology. I previously didIBDin Healthcare and Technology. I went to non-target schools (both undergraduate and graduate) without a stellar GPA. To prospective Monkeys, I want you to give you an honest answer so that you don't waste your time doing stupid things. I have been there and done that. This is my personal opinion and only forIBDandER。
IBD。You don't needCFA。In fact every bankers that I talked to absolutely hate it. You want to nail anIBDinterview, you need to do the following things: 1) Research about the group extensively, 2) Know exactly how to answer questions at informational, instead of saying hey I saw thatDBdid a deal for XYZ company on XYZ date. Be able to talk more specifically, why the deal was being done, how the deal was structured, and why the buyer is willing to pay at such premium. 3) Based on that group history, what are other potential deals that you think could happen, based on market dynamics. (and you know this because you studied about the market, talked to other people in the industry). 4) Actually bring a pitchbook that you have worked on. It can be a) Industry Discussion Material or b) Snapshot of the recent transaction. Look up on M&I on various kind of pitchbook. Doing all these will make it more likely to get hired thanCFA。Been there. Done that.
ER。你可以说CFAcan helps inERbut not as much you think. When someone told me they are studying forCFA, all I can think of is, this poor kid spends a lot of time studying. To doERjob well, I want to see work samples. I want to know that you can apply directly what you have learned. I want to know that you can do the job well. I want to know that you can update, build models without me telling you how to do it. I want to know that you can follow the industry metrics, you know the industry growth drivers. You have some sense of valuation methods. And the only way for me to possibly assess you on this is by submitting a short summary of why I should buy or sell a stock. Of course having a full initiation report with models will definitely help. So when I list out all these steps, did I ever mention CFA? No.
The fallacy of studying CFA: pushing off networking because you are shy and you don't want to deal with people. I was one too. I used to push off networking like actually getting to know the Research Analyst (ER) and Banker (IBD). I have seen a lot ofBO/MO and IT guys studyingCFA, thinking that it will get them the front office jobs. It doesn't because application > learning. Networking >CFA。The reason is as followed:
When someone from IT tells me they are taking theCFA
Because talking to these guys (who are actually working in these roles) for 1 hour, you can learn so much more than reading on tons of books. They tell you exactly how the stock is being traded (ER) or why some deals don't fall through (IBD). You are not going to get the same depth of knowledge by studyingCFA。Most importantly, you need to put a face on the resume. You need to know who the staffer is (IBD), how big the group is or how the team operates. Why? This will make it easier for you when you want to get a job there. Instead of going through HR, you can talk to staffer or business manager directly.
CFAis only relevant when you want to move up in theER, Asset Management, Investment Management role. It is just a resume padder. The problem withCFAis it is a mile wide and an inch deep. There is no way that you can possible learn about structuring deals (IBD) or covering a sector (ER) by doingCFA。
So I rest my case. This is based on my personal experience while looking for a full time job. I actually talked to/cold called/ networked with over 600 people on Wall Street prior to getting my current position.
Picture Source: http://wheninfinance.tumblr.com/post/22291307647/when-someone-from-it-tells-me-they-are-taking-the-cfa
And a generally very well put post. It's often hard to garner the reasoning behind the structure of transactions (personally my favourite part of finance, the why not the what) from the press, and so talking to those who executed it is incredibly worthwhile.
Advice Needed - Graduated in 2010 with a 1st Class Honors(Originally Posted: 12/21/2013)
Hello Everyone,
I am asking for some opinions please.
I graduated in 2010 with a 1st Class Honours in Mechanical Engineering but not at a top target university. I have been working in engineering for 3 years and hate it! I want to become a sales trader or physical commodities trader but have had no luck whatsoever in getting interviews.
(I have experience trading my own money since 2009 and have a profitable account.)
I applied for every investment bank going and also many commodities houses but didn't get an interview at most bar one. I got through to the final round with this firm but unfortunately didn't get the job.
我觉得我没有得到任何采访，只是因为我没有go to Oxbridge。我现在正在考虑回到Uni做一个经济学硕士学位at a top university. Is this a good idea? It is going to cost me ALL of my savings. Is there anything else I can do instead to get in?
Opinions please guys!
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Do you have any other options instead of hard core economics? If you aspire a career in trading, MSc. Financial Economics with a specialization in financial analysis would be better. Or maybe even MSc. Finance :-)
另一件事可能会有所帮助；这CFAlevel 1 exam. If you can combine this with a relevant master degree then you're getting much closer to your goal :)
Yes sorry, the main course I am looking at is an MSc inFinancial Economicsat Oxford, although the fees are huge!
Personally, I would rather not do a masters but can't think of any other way to break into the industry at the moment.
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