哈佛是目标学校吗？
Hi everyone,
我是一家非婚姻学校的大三学生。通过最近的实习，我有机会与许多专业人士进行了交谈，其中许多人参加了常春藤联盟顶级学校。我与之交谈的分析师和同事告诉我，由于竞争力的提高IBjobs in recent years, Harvard is no longer considered a target school but rather a semi-target at best. I found this information rather surprising, since most
online threads had previously led me to believe that schools like Harvard and Penn, while they barely made the cut, are indeed target schools. I would really appreciate some clarification. As the title mentions, is Harvard a target school?
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With the economy在its current stagnant form, it's difficult to tell exactly which schools should be perceived as target schools. As a 3rd year banker who has worked, cooperated, and talked withJ.P摩根董事总经理，唯一真正的目标学校，他们认为必须招募的学校，他们认为是普林斯顿。其他一切都较低，坦率地说，他们似乎相信哈佛大学中发现的人才与哥伦比亚这样的非目标是比较。
Harvard is a core school, meaning most banks HAVE to hire at least a couple of Harvard kids (whether they're on par with others or not). However in our day in age, banks pay much closer attention (especially the EBs) to the kids at top UG business schools such as UVA, UPenn, UMich, NYU, Georgetown. Why? Because they hit the ground running. Banks are starting to realize that the kids at these schools come in prepared and ready to take on real work and the kids at Harvard/Yale/Princeton spend the entire summer asking their peers how to do their deliverables.
This is not true. Finance isn't a hard subject whatsoever and these banks have multiple weeks of training that compensate for the lack of undergraduate business knowledge that Harvard students face. The main reason why Harvard representation inIBs尤其是“精英精品店”的减少是因为这些孩子是如此聪明，以至于他们甚至没有直接去银行业，而是直接跳到梅加芬（Megafund）或值得信赖的人体育店铺。坦率地说，这些银行只是咸，因为他们错过了顶尖人才。我们的“时代”并没有真正改变太大 - 还有像DLJ这样的精品银行，第一波士顿，瓦斯林Perella, etc back in the day that still valued the merits of someone from Harvard. It's just that back then,体育商店没有雇用本科生。要点是，哈佛仍然是哈佛大学，而哈佛大学的顶级学生不会被银行拒绝，他们只是决定不去那里。
And this is coming from a student at one of the schools you mentioned by the way.
As someone who has been recruiting for almost 10 years, I can guarantee you that students at undergraduate bschool have a huge leg-up in knowledge and skills which help those students during recruiting (it's easier to learn technicals when you have had multiple finance, accounting,econ classes）和整合（在培训中教授的大部分内容都是对BSCHOOL学生已经涵盖的内容的重塑）。现在，BBS每年都会有大量的课程，并且每个人都必须经过长期的培训，因此这并不是很大的优势。但是对于精品和体育要有较小课程的公司，运行3个月的培训计划并不总是可行的，因此专注于BSCHOOL学生是有道理的，他们的地面运行速度要快得多，要快得多。我对EB招聘,但我可以向你保证体育firms strongly prefer undergrad bschool students. I mean, if you look atMFs，其中80％以上的分析师来自沃顿酒店。银湖is probably the firm that hire the most analysts and 100% of them came from undergrad business schools (all Wharton except 1 of each Berkely, Ivey and UVA).
现在与哈佛有关，是的，有些人直接向buyside，但这是一个很小的数字，无法完全解释银行业务的兴趣下降。我认为，您看到银行业务的人的原因主要取决于自我选择和对金融的兴趣大大减少。
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wtf？
我已经坐下来阅读这本书是一件好事。房间的旋转很快
接下来我们会让孩子问”是嘛在J.P摩根really investment banking? Heard from professionals only Goldman doesIB。”
Holy fuck dude your prediction came true
Is M&A at JPMorgan really investment banking?
You sound as if that other kid didn't read this thread... Naive?
对于那些询问的人来说，这将是分支机构操作
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由于招聘已经较早，因此不再有目标大学。只有菲利普斯·埃克斯特（Phillips Exexter）等目标高中。
我没想到会看到这样的线程WSO。
wut
Do bears shit in the woods?
Seems like OP is trolling but to clarify, the following are generally considered target and semi-target schools (in no particular order).
Target: NYU, UChicago, Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, MIT, Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Duke, UPenn, UMich, Northwestern, Georgetown, UC Berkeley, UVA, UNC.
Semi-target: Emory, Boston College, Notre Dame, Indiana, USC, UCLA, UT Austin, Rice, Vanderbilt, Williams, Amherst.
我了解可能存在一些小分歧，但不要让这是对细节的论点，因为我只是在发布此内容以使OP一个总体想法。
什么？可以肯定的是哈佛是一所目标学校
迟到了一年，但只输入了我的十美分。我是一所常春藤联盟学院的学生，可以向您保证，所有的Hypharton学校都是最佳选择IBrecruiters. Talking to a number of departments at variousIB公司，一些团体几乎完全由哈佛，普林斯顿或沃顿商学院组成。哈佛不是一所目标学校，而是胸部学校的尔基。
作为一个从艾维斯（Ivies）之一毕业的人，我希望其他海报意识到，来自精英大学的学生并不意味着他们聪明或擅长学习或快速学习，等等。
But more about how the students and their wealthy parents market their kids
做一些卑鄙的ECA，擅长跑步或足球，进入一所体面的高中，在大学前接受一些弱智的大学级课程。还要记住要参加SAT并在SAT II中获得2200+和800个，在几个AP中获得4/5
轻松的AF，什么也没告诉您“聪明”，这是有太多的孩子与那些SAT和AP分数
大学只选择基于ECA，体育，Recs，Legacy等的基础。最终，学生拥有更好的学者，但是CBF进行这些0个价值活动只是被安置在某个州立学校或私人私人的私人学校中
You know that getting even a decent score on the SAT pegs you miles above most people in existence right?
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