Tier 2 RX (Ducera/Gugg) vs MM IBD (HL, Blair, Piper, Baird)

Currently having to choose betweenRxat a tier two firm versus top group at aMMIBD(Blair HC/TECH, PiperFIG/Chemicals,BairdIndustrials). Open to bothRx&M&A/Coverage-认为两者同样有趣。想法?

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  • InterninIB-M&A
12d

Are Ducera and Gugg really an equivalent for RX? I thought Gugg, after its acquisition of Milstein, was considered one of the betterRxshops.

12d
Gergee, what's your opinion? Comment below:

ducera> = guggenheimas的海报问题,要么Guggenheim or Ducerawould be alot better thanMMIBD. You would be able to place into any distressedHForMFCredit from them both.

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  • Investment AnalystinHF - Event
12d

我会放下来选择杜塞拉或guggRxover any otherMMshop you listed. Having been inRx, starting at a restructuring shop opens doors to every single opportunity - distressed, private equity,venture capital, growth, corp dev, you name it. By far, you will be involved in way more technical and hands on processes. Though having friends that worked at Ducera - I would say that as a junior your experience is def going to be a shitshow if you go there haha.

  • Investment AnalystinHF - Event
12d

From traditional buyout perspective I think exits from Ducera are better on average not because Ducera helps as a brand but because Ducera picks a lot of rlly ambitious nontarget kids that have good technical skills. If you are an all star analyst at any of theMMshops, I think tradPEexits probs can be the same, so might save you some grief on the work life balance - but would close doors on distressed investing

Fwiw typical Ducera deal team will run as lean as a partner and an analyst - that can be both good and bad from a learning and exp perspective haha

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  • Associate 1inIB - Gen
12d

这些都是很独特的职业道路,因此最终将归结为您自己的利益。哎呀,即使在MM您提到的银行您的职业会因您的职业而有所不同,例如FIG, or Tech.

1)Rx是一个利基区域,因此出口OPPS将受到更大的限制(是的,您仍然可以从技术上退出经典PE,但是,如果任何人打正确的卡 +幸运的是,任何人都可以在财务中获得财务)。工作比您提到的垂直行业更具技术性,时间更糟糕(对于Ducera lmao来说是正确的)。反周期性(但请不要以此为基础 - 您会很痛苦的职业选择)。如果您想做特殊坐着。或在购买, you have the clear edge.

2) Of the肠易激综合症你提到的一些垂直在te非常利基rms of learning experience (i.e., FIG), whereas some others have historically been quite attractive (i.e., tech, although they benefited from the lowinterest rate environment). Exit opps to corporate dev/ classicPEare much easier from here vsRx.

不告诉您我会选择什么,因为我不想影响您的决定,我的建议是将您的选择分为垂直行业与MM/Rx. So you would have Tech,FIG,Rx, 等等。从那里,消除那些您看不到的人,一旦将其缩小到一个或两个垂直行业,就可以考虑到银行。

For example, if you are between Tech at WB orRx, to the point where you have strong interest in both (as in doing it for at least 2 years straight), I would then think of where I see myself in 2-3 years, and what kind of lifestyle do I want. Make a lot of $$$ at Ducera but work 6/7 days a week 10+ hours? Or perhaps become an expert in HC and then try to exit to corp dev?

11d
陨石空间, what's your opinion? Comment below:

这非常有帮助!非常感谢。我认为我在潜在退出OPP方面的最佳选择将是经典的PE, so I will likely go with theMMIBhere. Appreciate the help

  • Incoming AnalystinIB - Gen
11d

Any exit opp you get at thoseMMyou can get at the Rx shop.Ducera does M&A: they were just sell side凯雷的顾问. The answer here is really a no brainer.MMS不会退出上面的任何东西MMPE.a“ T2”Rxshop is still better than a t2 m&a shop given that Rx deal flow is incredibly different than M&A.

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10d
Restless, what's your opinion? Comment below:

T-Rex

OP is deciding between 2 toy companies

11d
信贷人物丢掉, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Sorry folks but this is laughable. Gugg Rx and Ducera Rx are far and away better options than any middle market M&A option regardless of the exit opp you are looking for

Don't do the OP a huge disservice just to stroke your ego on an anonymous forum, cmon!

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  • Incoming AnalystinIB - Gen
11d

I agree most people inMMIBare getting their egos hurt and downvoting. In Rx you do everything andMMM&A bankers does and more.

gugg是一个EBand Ducera is one of the best standalone boutiques outside of Liontree/MKlein/Qatalyst

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  • Associate 2inIB-M&A
10d

哈哈

  • Associate 1inPE - LBOs
11d

Former MMIB analyst - if the goal isMM/UMMPE, I think a top MMIB group can be very competitive vs a T2Rx.

Like others have said, look at LinkedIn. The topMMgroups have very strong MMPE exits and UMM is very much on the table - probably notMFbut certainly UMM. For example, if it's Blair tech and you want to end up in ChicagoPE, there's a pretty decentnumber at GTCR/MDP/ETC。

如果是吹笛者FIGor something I would doRxjust becauseFIGis pigeon holing. Tech/HC/etc probably options.

From a general prestige perspective, I'd agree thatRxis better, but if the goal is classicPE为什么不去你要在卖方工作的地方PE交易。如果您想要信用/痛苦/等,这甚至不是一个问题,您应该去做Rx.

  • Incoming AnalystinIB - Gen
11d

布莱尔理工学院(Blair Tech)只是一个值得决定在两者之间的小组。

10d
jey29, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I'd easily take the Rx offer especially if it's Ducera. To echo the above, you'd receive a much better technical experience and have a lot more to talk about during buy side interviews. I'd also keep in mind that Piper chemicals and healthcare IT are some of the biggest sweatshops inMMIB

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10d
Smoke Frog, what's your opinion? Comment below:

这是怎么一个问题?显然,在财务以外的人将永远不知道存在的银行机会。

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  • Associate 1inIB-M&A
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  • Incoming AnalystinIB - Gen
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