JPM Fixed Income revenue
Looking through theJPMearnings release today, I noticed their Fixed Income revenue for Q1 2010 was $5.4 billion, higher than their Fixed Income performance in any quarter last year. However, their Fixed IncomeVARhas dropped dramatically. Their best performing quarter last year was Q3 with $5 billion revenue andVARof 182, however their Q1 2010 Fixed IncomeVARwas only 69.
How was it possible for them to make so much money while reducing risk by such a significant amount?
Interested to hear from some of the traders out there.
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I thinkVARis a statistical measure based on volatility; your expected returns on the 2nd worst day out of 1000 assuming a normal distribution of returns. In other words, if your volatility goes down massively (it's pretty low right now relative even to 2009 Q3 and definitely 2009 Q1), yourVARgoes down, too.
VARis a decent measure of short-term risk but not quite the same measure of longer-term fundamental risk. IfJPMhas breakdowns on what they own, I'd recommend comparing asset classes (high yield vs. high grade debt) and how much they own, net-net, of each. I'm willing to bet the numbers will be higher than in Q3.
Disclaimer: Trading strategies guy and former analytics guy. Not a trader.
I know whatVARmeans. Volatility leads to wider bid-ask spreads and hence whytradingrevenue is somewhat correlated to it. With reduced volatility and contracting bid-ask spreads, my question is how were they able to perform so well in Fixed Income? Unless more of it comes from proptrading, I don't see how it would be possible. It's not like the yield curve has gotten any steeper either. I'm sure there's a simple answer ...
至于打破Fixed Income down into high-yield vs Investment grade, I don't see how that would help answer the question. Both products purely take on duration risk afaik.
As for the vol vs. income, I'm not a trader, but most of us studied econ. If there's a sudden catastrophic event that reduces the number of suppliers (in this case, of liquidity), and that catastrophic event abates, do suppliers come back immediately, or do they take time to come back?
Put another way, let's say that the federal government mandates the bulldozing of all coal-based power plants. Six months later, it lifts the ban. Do electricity prices fall immediately or does it take a while for new businesses to form and new power plants to spring up? Bear in mind that there are significantbarriers to entryfor a fixed income clienttradingfranchise; they don't just spring up overnight.
If I weren't already heavily exposed to the capital markets, I'd be snapping up broker/dealers and financial intermediaries like crazy right now. This will beprobablybe a very good economic cycle for the survivors- I'm just not sure how long the cycle will last while we're only a little over halfway through asecular bear market.
That's fixed incometradingrevenue only? I knowsell sidethey have been killing it.
See my WSO Blog
Well, they group Currencies and Commods under Fixed Income when reporting revenue, but theVARfigures are broken down further.
If you look at page 11 of this though http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ONE/891891724x0x365100/6bc0ae53-12b6-4ab5-815a-1ab1f522c5e2/1Q2010-Supplement.pdf
you'll notice that FX and CommoditiesVARdidn't change much in Q1, but Fixed IncomeVARwas reduced significantly.
If you look at the Fixed IncomeVARfor 2009 and compare it to revenue on page 9, you'll see the correlation between theVARand the revenue generated in Fixed Income for the four quarters last year, but that correlation seems to have been broken completely in Q1 2010.
Bid-offer spreads HAVE narrowed - massively. Look at swap bid/asks; gone from something like 4-5bps post Lehman to sub-1bps (pre-crisis levels). Credit bid/asks have come in massively also. I think the biggest reason is what post #1 referred to. LEH bankruptcy just jumped out of the 500 day VaR models, most widely used industry wide I believe. Could also be down to greater prop positioning but I'd question the extent to which this has led to such epic revenues being posted.
"bid/ask spreads from Q3 2009?"
back to normal but the desks are much more concerend about charging correctly for credit and/or funding
Did you expect a top 4 US bank, to not report amazingFIearnings when the Fedis loaning them money at 0.0%.
Find an Exonn orHF(with exceptional credit), loan them 500mm over 6 months at 2.2%, borrow from fed at 0.0%. Repeat 5 times, Bammoney market traderis done for the year he can go sleep. Ofcourse its not that simple, but its also not super difficult.
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