Hi,
So, I'll be going to Indiana Kelley next fall and I'm interested in getting banking internships and opportunities in the future. I'm 100% going to try to get into the Investment Banking Workshop, but I've heard it's an extremely challenging process.
I understand there are less opportunities for non-IBW students, but by how much???
Also, would it be possible to break into theIB/peIU（非IBW）的行业假设我保持高GPA（3.6+）？
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I don't go to Kelley or have any friends who have gone there. However, from reading this board and the responses to some of the Kelley fanatics, I believe Kelley is practically a non-target if you aren't in the IBW. I believe you can still get into毫米banking and such, but anyBB/EBis probably off limits for non-IBW students (as those spots/interviews are all IBW people). I would focus 100% on trying to get into the right frats and other shit that helps get you a spot on the IBW roster.
I go to Indiana so there might be bias but I'll try to give an objective review. Kelley is a semi-target, not on the same level as the top undergrad business schools but still a good place whereBB,EB,毫米banks recruit from forIBD。IBW是一个非常大的组织。直到一周前毕业之前，它有约230名活跃的学生（大二学生），因为每年需要70-80个孩子。大多数公立学校每年派10个孩子到可观的银行IBD。I believe for 50% of the IBW to place atBBsandEBsand another 25% at top毫米sis strong for a school that isn't considered prestigious. It's still非常有竞争力to get into though because a lot of smart students are interested and Investment Banking is highly sought after field across the country.
Being in the IBW is large advantage because alumni and interviewers know that it means you're a top student who knows your stuff. This is why a good number of banks have large preferences for IBW kids. They have good reason for doing so, the average IBW kid has a 3.9 GPA and is way more prepared forIB访谈比普通非IBW孩子的访谈。面试中5分钟的差异很容易。因此，如果您班上的许多其他孩子都在IBW，而您却不是，那么您就在外面看。但是，您并不是完全不幸的，有些肯定是您不必参加IBW即可IB准备课程，参加校园内的演讲，您仍然会获得一些第一轮IB在terviews as long as you have a high GPA. It's up to you to network well and impress during your interviews to prove you're a top student. It's very tough but there's a small group of kids every year who do it without the IBW. Recently, there has been a few small moves by Kelley to makeIBmore accessible to non-IBW kids but it is still gives a big advantage if you get in, especially at theBBsandEBs。
P.S. Aim for as close to a 4.0 as possible. It's not too hard to get a high GPA if you put in the work and try to take classes with as many easy professors as you can. Also, about frats having influence, it's a quick lesson to anyone entering in this industry: who you know matters as much as what you know. So if you don't know anyone, start making friends.
I'm also looking to attend and could you tell me what moves were made to makeIBmore accessible to non-ibw kids?
谢谢！
另外，您可以同时申请IBW和CMBW，以防万一您没有进入其中之一？
do 50% of IBW kids really get intoBBs和EBS？实际上，这真是令人印象深刻，这就像每年有40个IU孩子的顶级工作。感觉这比Stern更好。
Linkedin shows that a good amount of non-workshop kids got into smaller boutiques and毫米banks. It's hard to tell how good non-ibw placement is since Kelley has like 2,000 kids.
I'd like to hear someone who is more familiar with IU Kelley speak about this, as one of my nephews is looking to attend in 2 years
I had a very unorthodox path to BB through Kelley without the workshop, andgenerally speakingtheBBs尽管我确定每个规则都有例外，但为IBW成员保留。如果您有疑问，请随意下午！
我的朋友去PWP而不参加研讨会。虽然很聪明的孩子
Is that like an outlier at Kelley? Or are there other non-ibw kids going to firms just as prestigious?
I couldn't find much on linkedin
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没有IBW的PWP（或类似）极不可能，但没有IBW。
That's mad impressive. Do they have connections on the street or are they just a workaholic?
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If you aren't in IBW I'd try to make connections at banks using things like LinkedIn and just start cold emailing. I'd also target a 3.7 minimum. A lot of people have been saying Kelley non IBW is like a non-target so I'd utilize the fact that Kelley still has a small yet present level of alumni on the street and just try to break in through networking. It's tough but it works.
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join the Capital Markets Group。我知道有几个孩子DCM/Lev Fin roles at毫米sout of that group.
Lots of kids have gotten M&A at top毫米（Jef/Blair/等），还有一些EB/BB因此我也相信小组。虽然比IBW小得多，但仍然非常新。
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介意如果我下午你？去凯利，想进入IBW
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Happy to speak w/ Capital Markets Group, and discuss various options to build student's education in the Lev Fin Capital Markets space (and do it efficiently - doesn't have to be semester-long). Happy to host a Lev Fin Teach-in w/ exercises (I taught kids at my HS the entire role in depth in 2.5 hours last year). They were burnt out but said it was the most they've ever learned in their entire life. Also - what's key is how students can learn more on their own time, what materials students can create (Projects / Pitches / Deal Summaries etc) to add to their resume and discuss in interviews, what other colleges w / quasi Capital Markets / Lev Fin Programs are doing - and their key weakneses (all are relatively new) https://www.leveragedlioncapital.com/. what subscriptions you could get an A) initial trial + paid - LCD, Lev Fin Insights, Loanconnector, CapIQ, B) Free right now - S&P, Moody's - create login - access to rating action reports , and C) Free - No subscriptions (and how you don't need LCD necessarily, and how you can source the info publicly for free on sec.gov / EDGAR.
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Open to hosting a teach-in, w/ students - performing exercises that = what job responsibilities throughout the life cycle of a deal. Hit me up if you're interested, would be cool to get involved.
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Just classify yourself as diversity bro… if a white guy can pretend to be black, you can at LEAST pretend to be Hispanic
I also go to Indiana and landed a topIBSA在ternship for 2023 without being in the workshop. Not gonna lie, it is harder to landIBwithout a workshop, but f210 helps prepare you for the interviews. Also, most alumni are receptive to kids who aren't in the workshop. So don't lose hope if you don't get into a workshop.
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