BP GDP路径
Hi everyone - I have an offer from BP's GDP and I am curious about the pay and exits(?). I have read on here that it is a top program, but tbh I don't know a single thing about any of the other shops or even BP really. Am I limited to Houston after the 3 years of the GDP or are there exits inNYC或者别的地方?我知道GDP中的薪水并不好,但是从那里开始如何?我非常不确定,您愿意分享的任何见解将不胜感激!
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绝对要这份工作,恭喜。
在3年计划之后,您最多可以在任何公司中找到一份工作,其中包括NYC和芝加哥。
除非您得到一个贸易seat. It's rare to get a seat right away because everyone in the industry wants it.
一旦您在BP或其他商品房屋中获得交易员席位,工资是否会显着提高?
Yea traders can make a lot more. Base is低6个数字but the bonus can hit 7 figures if you're good.
为什么前景IB嘛want to go into BP Trading? This just sounds like you don't know what you want to do and just want a brand name on the resume
It's a long story but to a certain degree you're right with the brand name part sadly
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了解更多银行孩子可以从事与交易相关的工作,然后比目鱼进入银行/PE3年后。如果可以的话,我很想缩短您的交易职业
我认为您错过了这个线程的重点。
大声笑如何从这个计划中获得报价,对业务的了解很少...我的印象很有竞争力的竞争力……雇用团队出去吃午餐IR?
如果您不想成为交易者,请不要去找工作,您会很痛苦,退出OPP不会引起您的兴趣
I know a good amount about commodities and trading, but know very little about different firms or the long term career. Had an internship and proved myself enough to be near the top but was coming here for advice beyond the day to day. I can change over my username listing from嘛交易的前景是否有帮助 - 我已经有了这个帐户多年
不管LT兴趣如何,都可以提供并从那里提供的好主意。
这是一个好座位。我之所以这么说,是因为它是休斯顿的BP,这意味着气体,我发现不像原油/产品那样有趣,但可能具有更大的寿命。
I don't think you're "stuck" in Houston, but in all honesty it's probably where the best seats are. Natural gas traders are a dime a dozen so there are roles all over the country, but the shops with the firepower to let you be the trader everyone on this board thinks they are destined to be are primarily ran out of Houston. If you plan on going the distance with this career, I'd keep that in mind.
您可以在BP上致富,并且您和任何人都可以在其他地方富裕,但绝对不确定银行业务。话虽如此,这项工作的乐趣增加了一百万亿倍,绝对上升空间可能更高。
你能dm我吗?
您为什么认为天然气比原油不那么有趣?
感谢您的出色回应!如果您现在可以选择进入该行业,您会选择Natgas还是原油?我可以看到Chi中的座位是否为BP的粗桌子开放
我对汽油的看法应大大折扣,但是它是可替代的,并且仅限于某种超级效率的某种方式移动。
我仍然会选择一张“油”桌子 - 原油,汽油或馏出物。这些产品的交易可能还剩下很多种族。如果您想处于最前沿,并在更多的策略/业务/项目相关的东西上,我认为可以提出更强有力的论点,即长期的机会似乎更有可能在天然气上。
What about power products?
OP在这里。对此也非常感兴趣。似乎权力是顶级交易者所在的地方,但我可能非常错误
您能解释一下为什么天然气长期更好吗?
Gas has more vol. plain and simple. The big blowouts you see on crude you see in gas on a yearly basis but it might just not be in the market you "cover" if you work at a place like BP. For example: look at SoCal, looks at the west this last 2 years (everyone is looking for west gas traders now when everyone has been saying west gas is dead for years). Look at Permian. Look at aeco. Looks at the global LNG/gas trade this summer.
学习天然气及其流动方式使您能够研究其他区域天然气市场并交易IT财务。许多粗糙的交易,您需要物流,并移动实际物理桶以实现交易。如果您想成为身体,原油更好。原油交易是为了优化您的资产以利用定价效率低下。天然气市场金融产品通常比物理产品更液体。是的,交易气体物理非常高效,您将磨掉便士。但是,一旦您了解了管道如何流动和存储以及市场如何平衡,您就拥有了在财务上交易更多市场的工具。
Full disclose this is all coming from a gas guy, but I also have 2 rows of crude traders behind me.
可以肯定的是,这是以前曾在一堆上触及的,但通常是穿越的路径GDP/休斯顿的TDP计划看起来像这样:
1)参加并通过评估的交易者课程。每年这些人的游泳池都受到限制,因此几乎所有人都找到了座位。尽管哪个座位取决于您的网络程度和通过轮换保持关系的程度。如果您想离开休斯顿,您有两种选择:NYC,我们的大部分电力交易都在哪里(您需要一两次旋转以打开那扇门)或芝加哥(有两个选择,我们有一个小的物理燃气台,多年来没有开放,或者您可以尝试转移到石油/产品或财政部,但都需要从正常领域进行大量网络)。
2) Go into the Analytics team. We have a world-class analytical team, but it will be a few more years of learning and teeth-cutting. We haven't lost a ton of talent externally, but we have lost a chunk to our Chicago and London offices.
3) Go into our Marketing and Origination team, as a junior marketer. There is another assessment we have for that, but honestly this path is not great. We haven't really figured out how to grow marketers and originators (as we haven't really needed to) and honestly we probably should be moving folks out of our physical trading teams for thees roles rather than trying to grow 20-somethings into it.
4)离开,很好。每年我们都会有陪伴MBA, a JD, go to med school, or lateral move to another company. The BP alumni network is giant in the business. Work here for 10 years and you'll have former co-workers at nearly every other shop.
What is the difference between Trading and Marketing/Origination? I noticed there seems to be a distinction between the two in O&G markets.
Is Marketing/Origination focused purely marketing say a specific oil major's asset volumes, and Trading to be focused with third party volumes at an oil major?
至少对我们来说,区别是风险。交易价格并保持其各种产品的价格风险。交易主要与交易对手交易(电子或通过语音经纪人)。营销与起源是一个基于销售的集团。更像客户而不是交易对手,提出量身定制的解决方案和新想法,以帮助他人管理和降低风险。但是归根结底,这些营销交易产生的任何曝光率(从生产商那里购买)最终会涉足交易书籍。营销人员和发起人以利润率赚钱,交易者主要是在曝光管理方面。
Makes sense. I guess in the markets that I deal in there is no clear separation of the two, and as a Trader we do both. I can see how it works to optimise both Marketer/Originator and Trading's tasks by having that distinction.
自从您提到的交易主要与语音/电子交易对手交易以来,人们一直想知道。谁将在营销/起源的货物的物理贸易/营销中进行身体交易/营销?
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