MBA薪水平均值 - 什么工作是什么?
Hey guys,
This topic is not for people who moved from banking to buy side postMBAand make huge sum of money. Assuming if you have a finance background (non-IBD)然后去MBAto change your career, which jobs (non-Investment Banking Associate/non-Strategy Consultant) usually offer the highest base salary? The reasons I am asking this are because:
Not everyone wants to doIBD/MBB邮政MBA(think people with family commitment, etc.)
My understanding is that onlyBBandMBBoffer lucrative bonus. Most of other postMBAjobs, base salary is still 80-90% of total package.
最高MBASalaries
I can think of some options like below:
Economic Consultant Associate (Cornerstone Research/Analysis Group etc.)
(高级)产品(市场营销)经理(Amazon/谷歌/Microsoft etc.)
高级财务分析师(在像亚马逊这样的财务领导力发展计划中)
MBA薪水Ranges
还有其他选择,你想要哪一个to go with? assuming if you are in a similar situation like me (have a family, don't want to work crazy hours and don't want to travel like crazy etc.).
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You pretty much nailed it. Although I would argue a Product Manager at FAANG makes more than aMBBConsultant. Economic research (Cornerstone, NERA, Analysis) probably makes the least.
选项2。还有其他一些角色接近这一点(Liberty Mutual的LDP的起价为约13.5万美元的基本,主要是9-5的工作),但它们更适合公司。英特尔还拥有一项领导力计划,支付约13万美元的基础。
Do you have any other examples besides Liberty Mutual on this?
请参阅上面的“英特尔”。不 - 我只知道这些,因为我认识的人去了。可能还有其他人,但由于通常有小班级(英特尔的ALDP每年需要7-8人),因此没有完全宣传。
后台/middle office in large牛ge bracketbanks.
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354manbetx为什么要屎?他没有错,这些工作的支付高于中位数的费用MBAgrads.
I don't understand any of the shit thrown on this thread, frankly. Maybe for not focusing onIB
Thanks all.
共产I thought thatCornerstone Researchpays up to 150K in base for postMBAAssociates?
Masterz57Wonder if those people from a program like Liberty Mutual LDP have to compete aggressively with their peer to advance to their next level? I am leaning toward something like that, but probably with a Corporate Development focus.
我很确定,基石大约为200万美元MBA。
技术付出了相当可观的咨询第一年或两年的咨询。许多投资管理领域的人比银行家或顾问的头几年(或永远...)的成就更多。对冲基金可能是残酷的小时,但是共同基金商店可以付款,我认为$ 250k- $ 350k的全部价格都可以更好。
I'm interested in this as well. Looking intoMBALeadership Development Programs. I'm mostly interested in Industrials though.
i heard from some friends that interned thatAmazonjust bumped up their compensation package for their most recent class of interns. they will start at 185k (130k base, remainder in guaranteed cash/stock bonuses). this for the PM, Finance, Retail and Ops roles. the Technical PM role pays even more, but you need a tech background to land that one.
When I graduated ~2 years agoAmazon售价为$ 120K,售价为$ 45K,股票签约奖金,所以这是正确的。不过,主要警告 - 4.5万美元的股票以以下方式归属-5%,15%,40%,40%在4年中。绝大多数MBA不要收集全额。
Amazoncomp has jumped up quite a bit in 2 years then it seems like. the current offer given to interns was:
base: 130k
cash sign-on: 90k (50k in year 1, 40k in year 2)
stock sign-on: 95k vesting over 4 years (5/15/40/40)
assuming no increase in base salary and no stock appreciation (LOL), comp for years 1-4 looks like this:
Y1:〜185k
Y2: ~185k
Y3: ~170k
Y4: ~170k
As the other guy said, don't just count those bonuses at face value.Amazonis notorious for fucking people over when it comes to being able to collect bonuses.
不,这些都是在其书面保证奖金在your offer letter that you will get X amount in Year 1/2/3/4 if you are still employed with the company. i've heard theyre a bit stingy with performance bonuses but these are guaranteed cash/stock bonuses
Wonder ifAmazon自过去两年以来,一直在雇用过度。看到了很多MBA孩子,来自HBSto Kellogg to Owen interned there. Not everyone got return offer though.
Amazonhas definitely been over hiring and is not too selective.
2我可以想到的其他选项:
4/(Senior) Equity Research Associate at either sell side (big bank) or buy side (i.e. Sanford C. Bernstein)
5/Lek的顾问(我听说人们在那里工作不必旅行太多)
What about those 2 guys?
我认为嗯在桑福德·伯恩斯坦paid base of around $140K for post-MBA associates but not entirely sure.
Equity research pays very well, it's harder to recruit for than mostMBAroles (everyone recruiting for IM will have pretty good investment backgrounds).
LEK is less travel, more hours. Effect on work life balance is about net.
Why would you even bother with aMBA如果您想针对这些角色,请从顶级学校获得?认识很多人一直离开我的公司一直从事这些类型的角色(在Facebook,Amazon,,,,etc).
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Preftige bro
thats kind of like saying whats the point of getting anMBAto go intoMBB/BB,有很多PPL可以直接促进这些公司的MBA咨询/银行业务。并非每个人都从银行或咨询开始,因此每个人都有不同的理由,为什么MBAmakes sense to them.
Yea I agreeMBAmakes sense going from another industry intoMBB/BB。对于我来说,真正没有意义的是已经有能力获得的人MBB/BB/High Tech jobs and spend that much cash and time on anMBA
I left finance, worked at fintech startup, now at larger firm in a Senior PM role.
NoMBA,,,,but i was a decent self taught programmer and got roughly a years worth of engineering experience at the startup before being promoted to full time product. This has helped tremendously in all my interviews including FAANG firms. Had 3 major offers.
我基本上从8/9-5 M-F工作,其他人在9点以后进来,但我每天早上都有一支在北京聊天的团队。
Base mentioned is par. Bonus is allover the place depending on group.
Is this startup called "Wallstreetoasis dot com" ??
WSOwas during and directly after college. I had other full time jobs simultaneously.
我知道我的商学院课程中的一位亚马逊技术产品经理。
基础:142K
现金登录:95K(1年级为55K,2年40K)
Stock sign-on: 120k vesting over 4 years (5/15/40/40)
Performance Bonus: ~20k
other ideas are corporate finance or product management roles at Silicon Valley firms (e.g., Autodesk, Netflix, Adobe, Apple, Google) or pharma (e.g., Genentech, Gilead) with pay packages north of 150K all-in.
Do you know the comp packages for non-technical PMs - Finance/Ops etc? Something that mere mortals can do?
Scratch that. I know the answer.
哇..我想大多数帖子MBAjobs outside top tier Ibanking and consulting come with pretty unimpressive comp package. I know many guys working in back office finance clearing 150k all in, with no grad degrees, myself included.
MBAwould entail positive ROI for most, if one attendsM7MBA,,,,or a top 20-25MBA获得巨额奖学金。在这2条狭窄的路径之外,MBAseems to be a risky proposition after all.
我认为you're looking at the wrong way. What would you make 5-10 years out?
you're right. Not much of a major pay increase in future, unless I keep getting promoted.
Then again, what is a guy in corp finance postMBA要从MBA中获得5 - 10年的时间?那个家伙会合理地破解300-400k吗?
该死的兄弟 - 您让我对我的B学校旅程感到悲观。
But since I'm topping out at under 90K in my current role, and don't have much upward mobility, I guess it still makes sense.
Probably pretty easily tbh. Corp finance managers at tech companies are at ~200k base or so. If you made it to director level you could easily get to 300-400k for all in comp.
其他行业可能会稍低一些,但我认为您仍然可以通过做一份体面的工作并慢慢地向上努力来达到25万左右。
Interesting.. didn't know in-house corp finance gigs come with rapid comp increases like that. Do you know if part time MBA's can break into tech firms in corp fin / marketing / etc? Part time at Booth / Stern / Kellogg type of places.
Talked to some friends working in top consulting, and they all told me not to do a lower T15MBA在full sticker price. ForMBB,他们告诉我这确实是M7+Tuck或Bust。如果我要“定居”企业工作职位MBA,,,,I don't think it's worth it to goMBAfull time. I might just do part time...
它可以通过兼职计划进入,但绝对困难得多。大多数兼职者都不希望改变工作/职业,因此某些/大多数学校甚至不让兼职者参加公司为全日制学生举办的正常校园招聘活动。
regarding corp fin salary progression: i expect to easily clear 200k within 2 years and 250-275k another 2-3 years after that. idk how long it will take me to get to 300k but i can confidently say i'll be at at least 250k within 5 years of graduating and i think thats a pretty solid spot to be especially considering the hours i work.
as far as whether you should go to a T15 without $$$, idk it really depends what you want to do post-MBA. i went to a school ranked in the bottom half of the T15 and we sent a ton of kids toMBB/BB因此,投资回报率绝对值得。如果您正在考虑Corp Fin/Marketing,那么薪酬明显要低得多,因此ROI也不有意义,即使您去了M7school
This. I think your friends are misleading you about theMBA。It depends on what you want to do, but if you're talking about "top comp" packages I think that universe includesPE/VC,,,,IBandMBB/T2 Consulting(如果您看德勤,ATK,策略等MBAcomp packages rival MBB). Almost all schools between 9-15 send ~30% of their grads into those jobs, with a varying mix ofIB/根据学校的咨询。是的,M7is better, but if you believe you're good enough to get intoM7and succeed then you're good enough to get the same job at a T15 school.
on another note @Rejected Monkey" , people go to non-consulting/IBjobs after theirMBA出于多种原因。我之所以这样做是因为我发现自己做的工作非常有趣,并且我的工作/生活平衡价值很高(对我来说,这是一个非常糟糕的一周是45小时)。其他人则出于类似的原因这样做,或者他们有一个家庭并确定较低的Col区域。有时他们会在MBA前他们从事死胡同的后台公司工作,并且只有通过一个人才能通过MBA。
Good advice and good feedback. I certainly don't question the value ofMBA。我100%确定我会做MBAbut the only question is: how do I do thatMBA在the minimal cost, while maximizing my odds of executing the desired career switch?
I also just got married recently and logistically, I find it to be a nightmare to go full timeMBA在a random location, since my wife works in the city and I don't want to be apart from her. Add the financial / opp costs of full timeMBA,,,,and it's no easy decision...
Can I ask you what your view is towards doing a top 25-30 full timeMBAwith full scholarship?? (as opposed to lower T15MBA在full sticker debt?) And what about part timeMBA在Kellogg / Booth / Stern? My postMBA去al is 1. strategy consulting, 2. I-banking, 3. corporate finance / in-house strategy at tech companies, in that order.
谢谢!
伙计我觉得你旋转的轮子because you are in a crisis of indecision. You have pretty much all the data you need at this point. Since it's not sinking in, I'll make it clear in crisp, consulting like points.
You have the info you need, we can't tie the rest for you.
看BreakingOutOfPWMabove.
Interested to hear how things worked out for you as I am considering anMBA在some point here myself.
Hey thanks for the reply!! Does corp finance / marketing gigs at tech companies require successfulMBAcandidates to do an internship, before extending full time offers?? In other words, do you guys fill most of your available seats viaMBAsummer internship program? I know that I-banking positions rely heavily onMBA暑期实习池,以填补大部分(如果不是全部)的全职助理班。我想知道在科技公司的房屋金融演出中是否同样如此。(如果是真的,那么,是的,我知道从兼职计划中脱颖而出将非常困难)
Also - do corp finance gigs recruiting at MBA's care about your previous work experience? For example, I never worked in corp finance. Or are they more open to candidates with diverse set of backgrounds? (like banking, consulting, etc)
M7+Tuck?!惊讶。通常是M7+Yale Som*吗?
硅谷财务经理的角色更像是150K基地,有或没有直接报告。在我在硅谷实习后,我没有扩大要约。实际上,1/6确实做到了,这在招募全职职位时成为了责任。
"Not everyone wants to do IBD" is probably sufficient in and of itself, but everyone here is obsessed with using the parenthetical "think x, y, z"
无论如何,我要回去吃午餐(想想生菜,黄瓜,烤鸡肉,沙拉调味料)。
根据公司的领导/开发计划,如果您是一家稳定增长的公司,其中一些人可能会特别有利可图。我见过的最高的是,对于一家游戏公司,该公司每笔2年中每支$ 190K,并且根据您之后所占的位置而变化更高。
他们还提供诸如公司住房,赞助购买(例如,对于前宗教人士来说值得一提的)以及其他几个切线福利(例如豪华车品牌和免费汽车,免费航班25%的折扣)等津贴, ETC。)
Can you PM me the company you're talking about? Sounds incredible.
WouldIBDbeat out all other options in the long-term?
Does anyone know what salary for a Senior Financial Analyst (in a Finance Leadership Development Program) for a Consumer Product Company would be like? Also, what does career progression/trajectory look like?
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