I am seeing less Wharton Undergrads

If I had to guess, there are probably a good chunk that are recruiting forbuysideopportunities / Startups that maybe were once not as popular. I mean if we lookat WhartonsMBAgrad placement and use it somewhat as a proxy, it still looks like a large amount of grads are going into Financial Services (IB,PE高频),这可能只是一些选择/ sampling bias that you are seeing.

From what I've seen, it's def not a factor of more wharton gradsgoing to buyside。A few of my wharton ug friends have completely struck out of banking recruiting and have signed offers at no name boutiques in random locations forSA2023。

沃顿大学的本科生。这里肯定有一堆过度膨胀的自我，但其中许多仍将EBs/BBS。在这个招聘周期中，肯定会看到比我从高年级学生那里听到的艰难时期更多的时光。个人没有得到EB或者BB但是计划on lateraling ASAP to a better firm.

实际上，我唯一的沃顿大学本科看到获得BB/EBoffers are diversity these days… RIP

Prettt著名的银行是为糟糕的银行讲话的团队。这可能就是为什么您银行中世界上最好的商学院没有多少人的原因。他们太忙于在Warburg，Ares和Cerberus磨碎。

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Pretty surprising, not noticing any difference at myMBB。

Sadly think the talent across banking and Wharton has just gone down. Not sure what it is with W people and I am a W grad so I tried my hardest to hire some for the next cycle of interns, but we hired zero in a topEB/BBgroup that has historically always hired from W. The W kids came in completely unprepared and got blown out of the water by non-targets who had the decency to read M&I.

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At anEB，并密切参与宾夕法尼亚州的招募工作。我认为这是我们第一次接近2个夏天，我们提出要拒绝加入竞争对手以外的地方（即，我们通常会让一些人拒绝我们接受另一家银行，但不算在这里）。一个 - 我与之交谈的人 - 正在加入区域VC（（not a top tier one), and another签署MBBconsulting。one of them was very candid and mentioned that the blow-out hours during COVID deterred them from pursuing banking.

同样，我们的公司就像现在的竞争对手一样（肯定是2019年 - 肯定是），从各种各样的背景中雇用，其中包括更广泛的学校清单。这并不意味着W/Penn Kids突然变得坏了 - 这只是意味着这些公司现在正试图从某些学校雇用雇用。我们第一次从以前从未做过的学校雇用。我们从通常从未做过的专业雇用。我一直在打电话，高级招聘MD公开支持更大的多样性。这就是白鞋律师事务所（相同的主张：高额$以换取可怕的时间）的方式 - 在过去的10 - 15年中，申请长期下降了高顶级学校的长期下降。不可避免地会发生在投资银行业务中。万博app网页版银行认识到，最聪明的人并不总是能/（或想成为）最好的职业银行家。这是一项苛刻的服务。像律师事务所一样，将您的巢穴宽广可能是确定人才的最有效方法。

on the point about their quality going down - I don't think its necessarily the case, and it really depends on the year; definitely don't have enough data to substantiate it either-way. W/ Penn still has exceptional students who can break into any bank, but motivation to pursue the path (for the job, hours, etc.) seems to be a more pertinent factor for them now than ever. I speak to a lot of talented candidates from the school every year, and am very happy for those who choose to pursue banking, and also happy for those who choose to do other things.

我最近在最高的链链商店里看到了一群沃顿儿童（您知道我在说什么）。我认为这是沃顿孩子的结合，只有“享有声望”的名字签名，以及他们对MBB或者international opportunities (a natural byproduct of China's recent skyrocketing capital markets activity).

You wanna know why Wharton is on the decline in recruiting? In this thread are Racist Wharton Chad and Smoke Frog. Read what they have to say and you'll have your answer.

My class of around 20 interns has around 5 Wharton kids and 5 Harvard kids alone. At a topBBgroup（（MS M&A/GSTMT）。

Another factor that I've heard is certainEBsare more reluctant to hire from Wharton because kids don't return and end upgoing to buyside为了FT。在过去的三年中，我看过沃顿夏天没有回来的课程，因为他们在7月中旬签署了报价KKR，，，，Warburg，，，，Silverlake, etc. It's annoying for firms with already good on-cycle placement that are supportive of leaving after 2 years, but it's also a headache when your summer intern is nowhere to be found at 7PM. Coupled with the fact that there's never been more buyside opportunities including respectable single-managerHFsand increasingly more megafund seats, more and more Wharton kids just use a summer role as a stepping stone. Reneging has also become increasingly common with Wharton - after all, what's the penalty? No bank is low enough tochasea 21 year old down and any harm to the person reneging would be viewed as bad culture on the bank. On top of this, the people that reneg are typically going to a client of the bank and a place supportive of them joining, so Penn itself has become lax on this.All in all, Wharton students will always do well with recruiting, but my sense is the banks have started scrutinizing the likelihood of them ever returning for a full-time analyst position.

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Wharton accounts for at least 1/3 of my incoming analyst class at myEB。

It doesn't matter anyhow... Most wash out after 4-5 years.