紧急竞争条款

大家好,

I accepted a job offer (Senior Associate) at a boutiquePEfirm and was never told there would be a non compete clause and NDA I'd have to sign later on. I started a few days ago and they're asking me to sign an NDA with a non compete clause that would prohibit me from working for any competitor or client for 12 months post termination or leaving. Is this normal?? I've never seen this before and I think 12 month is way to long for someone not in higher positions? There's no mention of severance or anything such. I'm in the US if helpful.

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2021年8月23日- 11:20pm
bananafreak, what's your opinion? Comment below:

此时,我将评估您在公司内的杠杆作用 /站立,并弄清楚不签署这些文档的影响是什么(即,如果您不签名,他们真的会开除您吗?)。也许与就业律师通电话。向他们询问建议:(a)如果您在雇用 /被登上工作后要在胁迫下签名,这些文档仍然有效;(b)如果您拒绝签名,而他们解雇了您,那么您的追索权。还要与您的经理交谈并找出这么长的非竞争的目的?您的生活 /个人目标会发生什么变化,说您是否想搬到美国的其他地区,但仍在做PE?有相互了解并解释您的担忧有时可以帮助您达成共识的解决方案。

I've seen this happen personally - i simply chose not to sign anything and there was nothing that the firm could do. It's a small investment firm I was with and it was hard to replace me. I was prepared to just walk out and work elsewhere, and I made that very clear to everyone.

2021年8月23日-3:36 pm
LN121212, what's your opinion? Comment below:

我也想知道!它的措辞非常模糊,我不确定我是否有利于我签名,然后决定离开。就像全部PEfirms, specific ones? WholeAMindustry?

2021年8月23日- 3:39pm
waccamole88, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Right-I could maybe understand if it was for a similar size fund (aum/average investment size), vertical or geography…however a blanket statement like that is absurd

Aug 24, 2021 - 9:28am
tacobellking, what's your opinion? Comment below:

There is a difference between what is written in a legal contract versus what is permissible under local (in your case, state) law. Assuming your contract is governed under the laws of New York, a non-compete is largely unenforceable unless it provides very narrow limitations, such as geography, specific sector, etc. For what it is worth, when I joined aPE公司作为一个助理I had a 2 year non compete and I consulted with a lawyer that said it would be thrown out in court - there are a lot of cases thay work against these non-competes. The real thing you want to avoid is starting a brand new firm directly in competition with your current or if you SOLICIT clients within a set time period. I would consult a lawyer but it shouldn't be a real issue at the junior level.

Aug 24, 2021 - 4:39pm
tacobellking, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Two comments:

1.这些非竞争力在关注量子驱动策略的对冲基金中更为普遍。确实,如果没有“产品”,那么什么都没有真正专有,不应保证不兼容。
2. Where I have seen/heard of non-competes across the board withinPEfirms is when it is a very young shop and they have a niche strategy that they worry about being replicated. Tough news is that nothing is truly unique and you can't prevent someone from earning a living. What they're really trying to protect for is that you don't quit and then try and try and start-up a new firm with the identical strategy and with the identical client-base - though, I have seen this happen time and time again and firms often don't bother arbitrating due to the negative spotlight.

Aug 24, 2021 - 12:49pm
tacobellking, what's your opinion? Comment below:

这是对的。限制您工作的“毯子”条款通常不可强制执行。它通常必须遵守设置参数,例如:时间,位置,业务领域,并有解释您当前公司的IP需要保护的原因。创建了非竞争条款是为了阻止不公平的竞争(例如开展非常相似的业务并窃取客户) - 并非为防止竞争而创建它。关于这一点有很多判例法。最近想到的是一个位置代理,他将船跳到了一家竞争对手公司。他们选择起诉安置代理并在法庭上输了。她的合同不在NYlaw. To make matters worse, she even opted to download client information (a big no no!)

  • Associate 1inPE - Other
Aug 24, 2021 - 6:27pm

Non-compete is very normal at your (our) level - mostPEfirms have them. 12 months is long, 6 months is more standard. To everyone's point above, they really aren't enforceable (plus your firm would look terrible for doing it). I would just sign it, maybe ask for 6 months instead if its really bothering you.

  • Associate 3inIB-M&A
Aug 24, 2021 - 8:08pm

您可以以非常便宜的价格与就业律师咨询,例如150美元 - 可以就您的管辖权和合同的这种情况提供建议。

NYis pretty employee-friendly and anything over 6 months isn't typically enforced, but there are some caveats, like protecting client relationships, that might hurt you and the courts have enforced longer.

This would be one thing as a managing partner but senior associate this is not typical. Ask for a few days longer to review the contract, but I would not sign this and probably ask for it to be deleted or changed to a non-solicit - do you really want to go through the legal process for a job you will more than likely eventually leave?

Aug 25, 2021 - 11:12am
topspark90, what's your opinion? Comment below:

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Aug 25, 2021 - 11:18am
tacobellking, what's your opinion? Comment below:

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