CS VS UBS
Was very curious on people's thoughts onCS相比瑞银。While I realizeCShas been a stronger brand in the last few years, I have seen UBS has made a rebound with its focus on pure advisory whereasCShas really struggled. Recently I have been reading thatCS是getting hammered as there in no deal flow and their Investment Banking division has really suffered which can be seen in the league table rankings. In the meantime, UBS is 6 in theM&Arankings whileCS是at 8 and UBS has $20 billion more in value fromM&A。
What are people's thoughts on this? Is working at UBS at this time better than being at CS?
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一个瑞银“在上升线程”，现在ppl真的认为瑞银比CS作为一个IBfranchise (for juniors) give me a break
Edit: the fact that this is controversial smh
Tbh I think UBS is a little bit better right now.CSlooks like its going down the drain very quickly
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我会接受CSover UBS any day. According to financial times league tablesCS仍然处于前十名M&A, loans, bonds andipos(where UBS only makes the cut for ipos). AlsoCS是well know on the street for having a great sponsors andlevfingroup while UBS is more known for its wealth management brand imo.
从这里得到这个瑞银宣传。CS是top 3IPO承销商，DCM和领先的SPAC承销商。M&A在大流行一年的大周年中倒下。您先生是假新闻
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I don't thinkCS除了SPAC之外，在任何这些事情中都是前三名。
但是,CSover UBS by a mile.
Check your BBG buddy,CS#1 SPAC, #2IPOsand top LevFin
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It's really not that crazy of a comparison. Why doCS孩子们有最大的自我
As a formerCSanalyst joiningPE在下个月，我很难说CSnor UBS are the smartest choices if you want to look at the long term.Barclaysstands out to me as the remaining euro franchise that has a chance at growing inIB。但是，截至今天，一切都是不错的选择。
巴克莱（Barclays）提供了部分原因，因为这种长期前景。一旦JES离开后，看到谁接管谁将很有趣。
If you mind me asking, what group were you in at CS? I'll be interning there next year and am currently networking for group placement
if I wanted to be a banker,CS
if I wanted to launder money, UBS
If I wanted to be a banker and a spy at the same time,CS
FormerCS银行家，现在MF（虽然要离开）。我会100％CSover UBS, Barclays, or Citi (and probably evenBAML) as a junior banker looking forPE退出。赞助商团队可能是最强大的非顶级领域BBgroup forPErecruiting, whileM&A,TMT，工业也很好。其他通才的报道小组也应为您提供最多的外观MMsand someMFs。品牌CS是still very strong, as it was easily the strongest of the mid-tierBBsin the 2000s and early 10s, which serves the juniors well today (CS alum at top firms, recruiters look atCS, olderPEfolks still look atCS作为CSFB）。长期轨迹无关紧要，除非这是一个非常突然而剧烈的fall alaDB。也许几年后CSwill be materially weaker inIB在声誉方面，尚未发生EP的发生，这对于招聘而言至关重要。关于BARC没什么不好的说法BAML从我所知道的 - 伟大的银行（对花旗一无所知IBexcept theirM&A, media, and industrials teams are strong) with fairly strong cultures. Between Barc /CS/BAMLI would pick more based on group -- if you could get P&U at Barc,M&A/ LevFin atBAML, or Sponsors atCS100% go for that bank, otherwise the top 3-4 coverage groups at any of those three will get great looks atMMand someMFs
比较CSto Citi/BAML就像一个坏笑话
如果您想作为分析师去某个地方，则不是。强大的品牌名称，强大的出口到PE/HFS, and pay will be the same asBAML/花旗。如果您想建立职业，请去花旗 /BAML(especially with more senior stock based compensation) but for your first 2-3 yearsCS是very strong
CSjust reported strong earnings today.
CS是一个更强大的品牌，在过去的几年中一直在重组，但现在可以重新关注IBgrowth.
Also, the standout groups atCS在街对面是真正的佼佼者。仍然＃1Levfin以及赞助商的前三名（就像十多年来一样）。不能为瑞银说
CS是also consistently in the top 2-3 of proportion of its analyst class that places intoPEacross the street (according to internal HH reports)
瑞银don't have any groups that carry the same weight
Agreed, just saw earnings. Also,CS是a much smallerIBthanBAML, Citi, and Barclays (I believe it might have the fewest investment bankers among the BBs) and still does as well as it does. Relatively leaner teams combined with strongPEplacement makes for a great junior place
Feel like Barclays最瘦的团队s, at least in their top coverage groups. Like 3-5 analysts per group.
Is this even a question? Look at the dealsCS是working and you'll know
两家银行都很好，但是CS是a league ahead of UBS. Its top groups are some of the most elite on the Street, andCShas some of the bestPEexits of any bank.
Friend atCSinIBtold me his group is going to start fizzling out and no longer hire any more full-times. Seniors are jumping ship and encouraging analysts to look elsewhere as they will not be promoting anyone else in their group A2A etc... I'd be careful withCS。
A little confused about the comment who saidCSoverBAML/Barc/Citi, I am atJP/MS/GSand if would have to choose between thoseCS将是我的最后一个选择。我喜欢我的内置如何M&Awithin coverage groups and the only otherBBthat follows this model is Barc.
目前为CSand this could not be less factual
哪个小组，铁路覆盖范围？
Purely fromPEexits perspective.CS赞助商和M&A, along withBAMLLevFin andM&A, will give you a great shot atMFs还有一些ummms，甚至HFS。覆盖范围更强（CS）TMT/ ind，，BAMLC&R和医疗)会给你相同的哦
What aboutCSLFO&R? This forum is in love with that group but you seem to skip over it
不在CS但是请帮我一个忙，看看交易流程。CSadvised on the biggestM&Atransaction of the year, was lead left on the first post COVIDIPOand leads the SPAC market. UBS is not in the same ball park asCSin many way. Much weaker brand reputation in the US acrossPE退出。Don't take a bunch of wannabes on this site as the truth there are a lot of salty college kids pretending to be full time bankers on here who write absolute nonsense that almost no one on the street agrees with
如果您查看昨天的收益报告，这里有任何评论CS崩溃似乎可笑。这是一个怪物四分之一CS- IBCM费用高达61％，债务承销费增加了83％，IBCM部门的利润率接近30％。十年来最高净收入。总的来说，似乎是对银行业务的积极前景CS整体。在彭博社上仍然排名第一LBOLoans league table by a longshot. Also worth noting that CS'sM&Arevenues increased 13% while Barclays, Deutsche, and UBS fell 32%, 39%, and 23% respectively.
Really citingLBOloans as a good league table stat?CS是一家伟大的银行，无需引用资本市场的实力。专注于M&A。
Both banks are really good. Obviously, everyone wants to believe they are in the best bank, instead of affirming that by putting other institutions down, we should be hyping each other up. LandingIB是so hard, it sucks that you can accomplish something so monumental and then have people still talk down once you get a spot somewhere...
As others have said, from an analyst's perspective looking to exit it's not even close.CSstill regularly sends people to megafunds (particularly from sponsors/m&a), and I would say it's on par withBAMLfrom aPEperspective.
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