BBSingapore or London?

Advice needed, would be very grateful if anyone could lend some advice.

收到两个IBDAssociate offers from topBB(the likes of MS with good deal flow) in Singapore, and another from bottomBB(the likes ofD B伦敦的交易流量很好)。不知道鉴于我的长期计划,要选择哪一个是留在英国。

专业人士(新加坡)
- SingaporeIBpays a much higher base salary (c.25%)
- 这些银行的名称比我在伦敦的报价要好得多

缺点(新加坡)
- 工作时间很长。不变的凌晨2点结束和周末工作
- Singapore perceived to be a second or third tier destination which might prevent me from moving back to the U.K.

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  • Business SchoolinIB - Cov
Apr 9, 2022 - 8:26am

Would probably suggest you still in the UK if your plan is to be there long term, but could be wrong. If you don't mind me asking, what's your background? More specifically, how did you manage to land a position in Singapore (ie. are you Singaporean studying in UK, UK studying in Singapore etc). Curious how you broke into Singapore

Apr 9, 2022 - 9:23am

Business School inIB-COV

Would probably suggest you still in the UK if your plan is to be there long term, but could be wrong. If you don't mind me asking, what's your background? More specifically, how did you manage to land a position in Singapore (ie. are you Singaporean studying in UK, UK studying in Singapore etc). Curious how you broke into Singapore

I'm British but also a Singaporean Permanent Resident, that's why I can work there
  • Associate 2inPE - LBOs
Apr 9, 2022 - 10:19am

I think there's enough demand for good associates/VPs that you'll be able to move from Singapore back to London within the next 2-3 years if you wanted to. I would take Singapore for the stronger brand and opportunity to get international experience. The higher pay and lower taxes will also be a boon for your personal finances in the short-term. I don't think you will get 'stuck' unless you decide to spend a very long time there.

Apr 9, 2022 - 11:57am
虽然可能不是主要考虑因素,但新加坡的税率和生活成本却降低了……您可能要支付的税率少于15%,只要您不购买汽车,您就会像国王一样生活
Apr 9, 2022 - 12:10pm

Singapore. The only thing you will miss out is super mega deals as deal size is generally smaller here, but Singapore is not 2nd tier city at all and have much lower living cost than London, the paydelta will begreater than you think. Unless you have some kind of preference for London, opportunities in Finance in Singapore is abound too so don't worry.

虽然我curious what you mean by long working hours, you're saying the chaps in UK don't work till 2am?

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2022年4月9日至下午12:30
Nah, I'm at a top mid-market in London. We normally finish around 11pm and rarely work on weekends. Associates at my firm tend to leave before 9pm. I can't speak for all banks, but most of my mates working in LondonBB在类似时间(即11点)完成。有时候我们会在办公室里到凌晨4点,必须在周末工作,但是这样的情况非常罕见 - 很少见,以至于我可以指望双手。而在新加坡,我知道每个人都在凌晨2点在周末工作 - 这是为什么他们在基础方面的支付略高于伦敦的问题
  • Associate 2inPE - LBOs
2022年4月9日至下午1:24

Lucky - my LondonBB没什么大声笑

  • Analyst 1inIB-M&A
Apr 9, 2022 - 11:04pm

damn nice. Don't y'all also get like 5 weeks off a year? Do people actually take them or are they considered pussies.

2022年4月10日 - 上午9:25

At a EuropeanBBin London on one of the "better" teams, and the analysts/associates/VPs (due to ASO shortage) in these times are working 9am - 2am with consistent weekend work. Due to the staffing squeeze and amount of live deals, saw an MD try tocompslast week and a Director running a model which was pretty funny ngl.

our American counterparts are having better lifestyles than we are at the moment. Only point is that the LDN experience could be what is described by Newbie92 or it could be worse than the avg American one (do your diligence!)

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2022年4月9日——1:20pm
Sounds like you're leaning towards Sg so far. Just want to add what I know as this doesn't seem mentioned. While emerging market/ companies can be cool, be aware that banks in Sg may have a much tight focus on some industries (eg. Real estate), which may or may not be what you want. Also being in Sg largely means covering SEA than other parts of Asia. This is a fundamental diff b/w Sg andHK。If you want to be good, building you knowledge/language/connection around distinct niche markets like Indonesia/ malaysia/ Vietnam is generally required. You may not stay long enough to feel this pain but should def consider how much of these are transferrable/ beneficial for your long term goal. And another big thing is exits. As you mentioned, you prob want to move back to UK so this may not be that relevant. But still you'll notice soon how tiny thePE市场在这里。这再次可能不是您长期目标的理想选择。
2022年4月9日,下午三点
实际上,我更倾向于伦敦。我真的认为这里的文化比新加坡好得多 - 我们必须在最糟糕的情况下选择最好的文化
  • VPinS&T-股票
2022年4月9日-3:26 pm

新加坡充其量是第2层。长期趋势也不喜欢它。随着海洋中较大的国家变得越来越发达,他们将不再愿意将其资本市场外包给另一个国家。香港关于最近的疣仍然拥有大型国内市场,这并不很快就消失。同样,与具有当地联系(海底)和语言技能的人相比,新加坡将处于不利地位。

2022年4月9日至3:29 PM
我倾向于同意您对新加坡成为2级目的地的评论IB。这个国家本身还不错,但是那里的工作文化有些老式。IB这个国家本身还不错,但是那里的工作文化有些老式。In terms of language skills, that's not an issue as I was born in Singapore and am able to speak the local language.
  • 分析师3+inPE - Other
Apr 9, 2022 - 4:05pm

I have not worked in London but I worked in bothHK/ sg之前。

要考虑的一件事是SG中的工作量是疯狂的(甚至是香港)。在SG中,大多数东西也不必要地要求。

我认为这是一个艰难的电话。实际上,我一直在想搬到伦敦只是为了更好地在亚洲工作(我的最终目标是尝试)PEand hating it). London seems to have better corp dev opportunities and better hours. Just the hourly wage probably is half ofHK/SG考虑较低的基础和较高的税收。

无论如何,我尝试与BBIBDexperience in Asia. No interview at all. Not sure if it is because of the lack of networking or if it is just because I am applying too few positions.

Apr 9, 2022 - 4:16pm
That's exactly what I'm worried about. Singapore is not纽约/巴黎,伦敦的招聘人员也不会看您的简历,即使是一个很好的品牌名称,尤其是当申请人不在伦敦 /欧洲时。唯一的警告是我有英国护照,所以我总是可以回去,然后尝试在这里找到一份工作。另外,我完全意识到新加坡的文化 /工作时间,整个社会都有奴隶驱动的心态 - 尽管它可能有一些优点。
  • 分析师3+inPE - Other
Apr 9, 2022 - 4:48pm

Not trying to be a racist here, but are you caucasian? Actually I also have British passport due to family ties and I mentioned "having unrestricted rights to work in UK without签证sponsorship" unfortunately that did not help much. Things maybe easier for you if you are caucasian with previous UK experience though.

Apr 9, 2022 - 7:58pm
在新加坡我没有工作但是我所有的朋友(>5)told me even at the Associate level: Monday - Thursday is constant 2am; Friday you may get to leave at a reasonable time 6/7/8pm, but weekends you definitely have to work one day and occasionally both days (chances > 50%). Singapore has a really bad work/life balance with old fashioned (disrespectful) management - A Singaporean banker working in London was asked to leave the firm as she was shouting at an intern, she probs mistaken London as Singapore and brought all her bad habits overseas.IBsin Singapore are lagging miles behind the US/Europe in terms of culture, and are even pale in comparison toHK。This is the main (possibly the only) deterring factor that stop me from moving there (more of the culture rather than the hours). I hope someone proves me wrong so that I can persuade myself to move there!
Apr 11, 2022 - 4:13pm

您热爱新加坡的文化,但建议在搬到那里之前对该国进行更多的研究。没有人会因咀嚼口香糖而入狱,没有人会因不冲洗厕所而被罚款。同性恋在技术上是非法的,但法律并未积极执行。

2022年4月11日-5:48 pm
我是混合种族(中文 /西班牙语),讲流利的普通话。在我的GCSE/A级时,我在新加坡度过了几年,而我热爱安全的社会,干净的街道和高效的政府,但我完全意识到新加坡的办公室环境已经过时了。小时不会吓到我那么多,但是人们会(即敌对)。大多数欧洲人更加脚踏实地和友好,所以这是我考虑的关键因素
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